Heading East into the Soviet Union
Moderator: Joel Billings
RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union
This is a crucial point in the Axis offensive. The Soviets are going to get stronger in manpower etc. while the weather gets worse and the Axis suffers. I am busy for the next day or two and this is a great time to open things up for discussion. I will also admit that this is usually as far as I normally get before I start over and test a new version to see what the changes do. I have played to 1 Jan 41 about 20 some times and past that only about twice because most of my playing is for playtesting. So feel free to make tactical and strategic advice on air, combat, and logistics.
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HardLuckYetAgain
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ORIGINAL: carlkay58
Yes my supply net is rather strange but I leave you with this: the rear depots have been saving up freight and supplies which I have not really needed as of yet. But when the bad weather hits - next turn as a matter of fact - then that supply is closer to the front and easier to ship forward. You guys will love my turn 16 below.
Yes, this is what I suspected too
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I fear the mud far more than the snow. Mud is constant while snow comes and goes.
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Thanks for the logistical tests, Carl, really good stuff
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Very highly interesting! Thanks for posting this - much to learn.
One tiny thing: could you please also post the date the turn had happened?
One tiny thing: could you please also post the date the turn had happened?
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FriedrichII - I am not sure what you are asking for. Game date is Oct 12, 41 if that is what you are looking for.
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Right now you absolutely trashed the SOV manpower reserves.
Don't have your save open, but i think Axis had 600k stored, and the soviets like 80k, with 15k per turn?
Don't have your save open, but i think Axis had 600k stored, and the soviets like 80k, with 15k per turn?
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FriedrichII
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Yes, the game date for orientation. Thanks!
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Jajusha - yes that sounds about right. Unfortunately the Soviets are going to climb in manpower because of the bad weather and then they get a 500K manpower boost in November 41 sometime so they could be over 3.7M by December if I can't knock them down a lot in the meantime.
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Thank you so much for this both exciting and educational AAR, even better with the turns attached for our humle review!
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The attached files makes this a great example game for new players. You can download the files, see what is going on in detail, and then see how much better you can do than I did.
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T17 Soviet Attacks:
The Soviets have attacked across the front. The two Routs were Rumanian Cavalry brigades near the Sea of Azov. I will have to pull the Rumanians out of the front line. The Retreat results are mostly against regiments along the front.

The Soviets have attacked across the front. The two Routs were Rumanian Cavalry brigades near the Sea of Azov. I will have to pull the Rumanians out of the front line. The Retreat results are mostly against regiments along the front.

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T17 Supply Net North:
Remember that I have just tuned the depot network for this turn. So AGN is totally in a mess while AGC is looking pretty good. The problem with AGN is that the rail net has fallen well behind because I sent the FBD down to help AGS with its supply situation. I will have to call that FBD back up and possible send the 3rd PG FBD to help too.

Remember that I have just tuned the depot network for this turn. So AGN is totally in a mess while AGC is looking pretty good. The problem with AGN is that the rail net has fallen well behind because I sent the FBD down to help AGS with its supply situation. I will have to call that FBD back up and possible send the 3rd PG FBD to help too.

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T17 Supply Net South:
Odessa sends sea supply to Yalta. I am not so sure that Genichesk should be receiving sea supply as I do control Kerch but not the Kerch straits. I will have to bring that up to the developers as a question. Things are looking pretty good in the south.

Odessa sends sea supply to Yalta. I am not so sure that Genichesk should be receiving sea supply as I do control Kerch but not the Kerch straits. I will have to bring that up to the developers as a question. Things are looking pretty good in the south.

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T17 Air Phase:
It remains rain across the entire front so I do not activate any of my air directives and let the air groups rest.

It remains rain across the entire front so I do not activate any of my air directives and let the air groups rest.

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T17 Freight:
The Ground and Air Commands are receiving more supplies than needed. The Supplies Lost is also below 6800 total.

The Ground and Air Commands are receiving more supplies than needed. The Supplies Lost is also below 6800 total.

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T17 AGN:
It is official as the 4th PG cuts the final rail line feeding the Leningrad pocket. 18th Army is able to reduce the Oranienbaum fort level to 0 with two assaults. 4th PG is also able to cross the Neva River. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for the Soviets trapped in Leningrad. Osinovets is the port supplying every one there now and it is only a level one port so it is constricted as a supply base.

It is official as the 4th PG cuts the final rail line feeding the Leningrad pocket. 18th Army is able to reduce the Oranienbaum fort level to 0 with two assaults. 4th PG is also able to cross the Neva River. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for the Soviets trapped in Leningrad. Osinovets is the port supplying every one there now and it is only a level one port so it is constricted as a supply base.

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T17 AGC:
2nd PG remains the weak point for the front. I find it very hard to pull any more than a single panzer division out of the front line to refit and recover CPP. 3rd PG moves up behind two points in the line to bolster the weakest points while recovering CPP and getting ready to launch an attack towards Moscow.

2nd PG remains the weak point for the front. I find it very hard to pull any more than a single panzer division out of the front line to refit and recover CPP. 3rd PG moves up behind two points in the line to bolster the weakest points while recovering CPP and getting ready to launch an attack towards Moscow.

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T17 AGS:
The 1st PG is my only real offensive formation at this time. I have breakthroughs near Kursk, Kharkov, and the Dnepr River bend with one division crossing the Dnepr near Zaporozhye.

The 1st PG is my only real offensive formation at this time. I have breakthroughs near Kursk, Kharkov, and the Dnepr River bend with one division crossing the Dnepr near Zaporozhye.

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