HB (Axis) vs Hadros (Allies) HadrosWelcome

[AlvaroSousa]

Is this Beta or official version?

[stjeand]

Official. HB does not play Beta.

[Harrybanana]

AUG 30, 1940

The Battle of the Atlantic may already be lost. Another 4 MS sunk, but 4 more U-Boat hits. I have never seen anything like this in all my games. The closest I have seen is in our mirror game where Hadros is also doing very bad; just not as bad as me. The most surprising thing is that my U-Boats are being soundly defeated even if the Allies have less than the maximum number of escorts. The 2 hits on U-138 in particular will come back to haunt me.

[Harrybanana]

The invasion of Yugoslavia gets underway.

[Harrybanana]

SEPTEMBER 13, 1940

The U-Boat woes continue. 5 MS and an escort sunk but also 5 more U-Boat hits; including 3 hits on U-138 to sink it. So 8 escorts score 5 U-Boat hit over 2 turns. Are we sure that there have not been any Rule changes???

[Harrybanana]

Luckily the land war is going much better. Yugoslavia is conquered.

[Harrybanana]

As is mainland Vichy France (at least I think it was, but now I don't remember getting the Conquest message at the end of my turn).

[Harrybanana]

Algiers is also captured to conquer Vichy North Africa.

[stjeand]

You found my Uboats...I thought I lost them.

Honestly...that is my Uboats 80% of the time.


And where if the UK navy? I don't understand why they are not sinking the Italian fleet in Africa.
Did he sustain too many losses in France?

Normally in the UK all in losses for the UK are on average 1 corps. He lost quite a few.

[Harrybanana]

ORIGINAL: stjeand

You found my Uboats...I thought I lost them.

Honestly...that is my Uboats 80% of the time.

Truly? I have had bad luck with the U-Boats before (and good luck as well) but never anywhere near this bad. I have had 1 U-Boat Hit for every 2 MS sunk and have only sunk 2 (or is it 3) escorts.

And where if the UK navy? I don't understand why they are not sinking the Italian fleet in Africa.
Did he sustain too many losses in France?

Mostly on escort duty I think. He has not sustained any hits to the RN yet (other than escorts). But the RN does have a lot to do at this stage of the War. They have to have one fleet stationed in England in case the Kriegsmarine tries to breakout. They have to keep another fleet in the East Med to prevent Axis invasions (if you have ever played ComradejaKorps you would realize the necessity of this). This doesn't leave them much to put in Gibraltar to watch the West Med.

Normally in the UK all in losses for the UK are on average 1 corps. He lost quite a few.

Yes, but he didn't use the All-In strategy. He just had 5 Infantry Corps, an armour, a mech and an HQ. With the All-In there would have been at least 1 more armour and 1 more Mech. But rather than building these it is clear that Hadros spent a lot of his early UK and Canadian production on MS and escorts. As it turns out these will probably not be needed.

His mistake, IMHO, in France was the turn where he went all out attacking with the British and French forces. This left him too vulnerable to my counterattack the following turn.

[Harrybanana]

SEPTEMBER 27, 1940

Nothing of interest to report except the BoA continues to go poorly. Only 2 MS sunk and 2 more hits on my U-Boats. The only reason he didn't score more hits is because I raided the Pan-American zone where he didn't have any escorts. I occupy all the ports in French North Africa. I know some players don't bother conquering French North Africa because of all the ports that need to be occupied; but it is also quite defensible terrain and it keeps the Allies far from Italy. Oh yeah, I also start blockading Malta and move several air units within range.

[Harrybanana]

OCTOBER 11, 1940

A Glorious Victory has been won by the U-Boats of the Kriegsmarine as 3 MS of a heavily protected convoy (ie 10 escorts) are sunk with no U-Boat losses. Otherwise little of note happens, except that German Heavy Armour advances to tech 41. At this rate I may have Tech 42 by the time of Barbarossa (or Sealion, I haven't decided yet).

[Harrybanana]

OCTOBER 25, 1940

No MS sunk as the U-Boats head to port to lick their wounds. Otherwise I just rail some units East.

[Harrybanana]

NOVEMBER 8, 1940

0 Ms Sunk

The Brits abandon Malta so it is occupied by the Italians.

Hadros and I are following very similar grand strategies as the Axis. Neither of us have invaded Norway, the Netherlands or Greece and neither of us are advancing into Egypt. Both of us have now conquered Malta. We both seem to be planning a 41 Barbarossa rather than a 41 Sealion. The only significant difference is that I conquered Vichy France and Vichy North Africa and he did not.

[stjeand]

I am surprised the let Vichy Africa fall without much of a fight. I normally own western Africa...that way it forces the Axis to put more units down there...not like the UK infantry is doing much else.

Then again he may have lost to many.

[Harrybanana]

NOVEMEBR 22, 1940

0 MS Sunk. Iraq is invaded by the UK. While examining my unit in Baghdad I accidentally moved it. Oh well, it wasn't likely to do any damage anyway. Rumania and Hungary join the Axis cause.

[Harrybanana]

DECEMBER 6, 1940

3 MS Sunk and U-Boat tech advances to 42. But I have decided not to build any more U-Boats. The 6 I have will have to do the job. Well of course they won't do the job, but at this stage I don't think 9 U-Boats would do the job either.

[Harrybanana]

DECEMBER 20, 1940

5 MS sunk. The Brits conquer Iraq. Persia looks to be next.

[Harrybanana]

JANUARY 3, 1941

A whopping 14 MS and 2 escorts are sunk for the cost of 2 U-Boats. Maybe I should build more U-Boats. Otherwise no action as I continue to move units East.

[Harrybanana]

JANUARY 17, 1941

6 MS sunk. So in the last 3 turns I have sunk as many MS as I did in the 12 turns prior and for the loss of only 2 U-Boats compared with 15 prior.