14.5mm PTRD-41

[Nix77]

Why is the PTRD-41 introduced to Soviet rifle and cavalry division ToE way before it's even in production? Especially the 41b Cavalry Division is stuck at 72% ToE only because it will be missing these guns for 4 months, from August '41 to December '41. There's also a huge bunch of rifle divisions upgraded in November '41, just before the PTRD-41 production starts.

Would it make sense to move PTRD-41 production start date earlier, to November or even earlier? One option could be to make an intermediate Cavalry division ToE for August-November'41, without the PTRD?

Simonov had the PTRS-41 designed already in 1938, although it wasn't in production until after Barbarossa started, and the factories producing it were evacuated early. According to some sources, Vasili Degtyaryov had the PTRD-41 designed in July '41 already, only 22 days after it was requested, and in production quickly in August '41. Production of the gun was apparently very easy, since a large number of them was produced in 1941 already (17700 pcs according to http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/AT_RIFLES2.htm).

However, the production numbers with current production dates seem perfectly OK, with around 18000 produced in -41 and 180000+ produced at the end of -42.

[Great_Ajax]

I agree that the OB shouldn't have AT Rifles if they weren't in production. I will need to coordinate with Jim as he covers down on the production side and I need to make sure that the OB syncs up with his vision of the production.

Trey

ORIGINAL: Nix77

Why is the PTRD-41 introduced to Soviet rifle and cavalry division ToE way before it's even in production? Especially the 41b Cavalry Division is stuck at 72% ToE only because it will be missing these guns for 4 months, from August '41 to December '41. There's also a huge bunch of rifle divisions upgraded in November '41, just before the PTRD-41 production starts.

Would it make sense to move PTRD-41 production start date earlier, to November or even earlier? One option could be to make an intermediate Cavalry division ToE for August-November'41, without the PTRD?

Simonov had the PTRS-41 designed already in 1938, although it wasn't in production until after Barbarossa started, and the factories producing it were evacuated early. According to some sources, Vasili Degtyaryov had the PTRD-41 designed in July '41 already, only 22 days after it was requested, and in production quickly in August '41. Production of the gun was apparently very easy, since a large number of them was produced in 1941 already (17700 pcs according to http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/AT_RIFLES2.htm).

However, the production numbers with current production dates seem perfectly OK, with around 18000 produced in -41 and 180000+ produced at the end of -42.

[Denniss]

translated from russian wiki:

Serial production of the first PTRD was started on September 22, 1941 at the Kovrov Arms Plant [3] , in October the first installation batch was assembled - 50 guns [3] , at the end of November 1941, the production of PTRD and PTRD was also mastered by the Izhevsk Machine-Building Plant (for which there were drawings, technical documentation and part of the blanks of parts were delivered) [4] , however, until the beginning of 1942, the total production of anti-tank rifles in Izhevsk did not exceed 20 pieces. per day [5] , only 1941 were produced 17 688 , and in 1942 - 184 800 PTRD [6] . Production of the PTRD was discontinued in December 1944, in total it was released281 111 pcs. rifles [7] .

The first 300 ATGMs, in accordance with the directive of the commander of the Western Front, General of the Army G.K. Zhukov of October 26, 1941, were sent directly from the Kovrov plant to the 16th Army of Major General K.K.Rokossovsky , which defended the defensive lines in the Volokolamsk direction to the north. - west of Moscow [3] .

[Great_Ajax]

Jim says that the ammunition for the PTRDs wasn't produced in enough quantity to be used until December so he isn't going to make any changes to the start date of the PTRDs. I removed the PTRDs from the 41b Cavalry Division and added a 41c Cavalry Division in Dec 41 that has 78 x PTRDs.

Trey