The Pacific

Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 10:41 am

How many of you out there really enjoy Pacific scenarios and have a more than passing interest in the War with Japan in the islands?

Just curious. If you are, post it here...

Thanks,

Wild Bill

Hortlund · Post by **Hortlund** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 12:35 pm

Oh you know I have Bill. Are we talking about playing as japs ot americans btw?

mr172 · Post by **mr172** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 1:28 pm

My vote count, old Kunel?

The mad Italian

slehtine · Post by **slehtine** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 2:28 pm

I am. I'll play American, japanese, who ever were there!

-Sasa

gators · Post by **gators** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 3:59 pm

Banzaii, yall!

dox44 · Post by **dox44** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 4:12 pm

my number one place to fight...a possible
Okinawa campaign?

lnp4668 · Post by **lnp4668** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 4:19 pm

Definitely love the pacific. Just wonder how tough it will be with the new infantry feature in 5.3

sven · Post by **sven** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 4:28 pm

Originally posted by Wild Bill:
How many of you out there really enjoy Pacific scenarios and have a more than passing interest in the War with Japan in the islands?

Just curious. If you are, post it here...

Thanks,

Wild Bill

Hey Bill you know the Pacific is my cup of tea too.

regards,
sven

General Mayhem · Post by **General Mayhem** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 4:35 pm

Originally posted by Wild Bill:
How many of you out there really enjoy Pacific scenarios and have a more than passing interest in the War with Japan in the islands?

Just curious. If you are, post it here...

Thanks,

Wild Bill

I am, very much.

One of my favorite movies
is 'Thin Red Line'.

davidmiller · Post by **davidmiller** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 4:42 pm

I would be interested in any Pacific Campaign. Also would be interested in a Chinese and Jap slugfest. All of your battles and campaigns are great if I could only stay alive to see the results of my incompetence.

Panzer Capta · Post by **Panzer Capta** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 4:44 pm

Most definitely interested in Pacific Campaign. With the new infantry modifications and the melee option, would really like to see a scenerio focused on the mountain assault on Iwo Jima.

Hortlund · Post by **Hortlund** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 5:27 pm

Thats really the question isnt it. I have been toying with the idea of a Pacific-Island campaign. But the real problem is finding what unit to follow. A japanese unit would be booring as heck, say one invasion agianst pitiful allied troops in 41 or 42, then nothing until a marine division+ lands in 44 or 45 with 200+ aircraft and 7 battleships in support. Anything not in caves wiped out on turn 1.

Or an american campaign. As far as I have understood no unit did more than one or two at the most invasions during the entire war. Perhaps I'm misstaken here, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

I suppose one could set up some made up special fire-brigade small unit who got transferred from invasion to invasion, but I tend to like the historical ones better.

Any ideas? I would really love to fight a campaign for the japanese in the pacific. Start off in 37 against the chinese, then the russkies, followed by the invasion of the Phillipines perhaps (or against the Dutch in the east indies), after that you get to defend all the islands, Tarawa, Saipan, Iwo Jima, Okinawa. Problem with the japanese is that they always ended their defensive battles with one hell of a Banzai attack. Now who would like to see his beloved core force make a suicide attack like that?

I suppose the best jap campaign would be either covering the Philipines or Singapore, or Burma, I dont know, but I want those invasion/defend against invasion battles.

Right now I'm leaning more towards the USMC campaign, throw in some ahistorical unit, and let that unit take part in the defence of the Philipines, then off to bold invasions of Guardalcanal, then off to Tarawa, Saipan, Iwo and Okinawa. (Who ever said I liked my campaings short

I guess one could squeeze out 30-40 battles out of such a campaign including 4-5 opposed landings/invasions.

Hmm..more I think about it, the better it sounds. Because the generated campaign for any pacific units isnt really that good (dont get me wrong, I still think this game is the best one ever made), but the maps all look like the swamp from hell if you know what I mean.

So, Bill or anyone else, any ideas?

Steve

[ July 03, 2001: Message edited by: Panzerjaeger Hortlund ]

Warrior · Post by **Warrior** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 5:35 pm

The roughest fights are in the Pacific, only the seasoned SPWaW veteran should transfer there.

SAMWolf · Post by **SAMWolf** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 5:41 pm

I would love to play an Island hopping campaign as the U.S. Marines.

General Mayhem · Post by **General Mayhem** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 6:09 pm

Originally posted by SAMWolf:
I would love to play an Island hopping campaign as the U.S. Marines.

In SPaw terms they have both better chance
to hit because they're elite AND they carry
much more powerful armament than U.S. army(like SMG's).

I say, WB, make a U.S. Army campaign/scenarios that make us all humble,
so we can distinguish men from mouses.

Panzer Capta · Post by **Panzer Capta** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 6:10 pm

I think playing from the Japanese perspective would be fine prior to the later periods of the Pacific Campaign.....especially when the Japanese were the aggressors (Russian border,China, and Phillipines). However, later in the Campaign when the Japanese generally fought a defensive war against the USMC, i dont think it would be that interesting from the Japanese perspective.

Panzer Captain.

rich12545 · Post by **rich12545** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 6:16 pm

Count me in. Is this going to be a mega with a marine unit?

Mark Ezra · Post by **Mark Ezra** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 6:19 pm

A Pacific campaign would be great

General Mayhem · Post by **General Mayhem** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 6:39 pm

Originally posted by Panzerjaeger Hortlund:
So, Bill or anyone else, any ideas?

Steve

[ July 03, 2001: Message edited by: Panzerjaeger Hortlund ]

I think landings aren't so essential
actually. Far as I've understood, many
of them did go awry, and when there was
stiff opposition, it was almost slaughter.

On the other hand, I'm sure Japanese didn't
with each and every island take lot of defensive actions on the beach, but retreated to inlands. Please correct if I'm
wrong. But way as I see it, landings aren't
necessarily very exiting to play, nor do
I'm sure can one learn to make them 'right'.

I think best campaign would be one with to
two or more landings and two or more big islands which have lot of varying terrain in them. Maybe even some battle in urban terrain with Japanese?

What'd I'd love to have, would be chance to choose to where I land my forces.

Imagine campaign that uses same maps, but
have two to four diffrent troop positions
build upon them, depending from which beach one started to advance to inlands.

USMC or Army same to me really , but Japanese I would not want to necessarily play.

Same to me is it historical or not.

Warrior · Post by **Warrior** » Tue Jul 03, 2001 8:14 pm

Originally posted by General Mayhem:
USMC or Army same to me really , but Japanese I would not want to necessarily play.

Any scenario played as Japs, early in the war or late, gives wonderful opportunites to kill numerous Marine devils. There are no opponents more difficult than the Japs. Even the Russians weren't as fanatical.

[ July 03, 2001: Message edited by: Warrior ]