"Blitzkrieg landings" with not commissioned ships

[fcooke]

Capt BH - I think we spent almost every last penny we had that night, and we had a few hundred students in there that night - so it certainly was an expat bar that night. We were in HK less than 24 hours, so not enough time to befriend the locals and find more authentic spots. I made it up later when part of my team was in HK and I went there once a year - they found out I liked Peking duck so 4 out 6 dinners would be that. And they wouldn't even leave you alone on the weekend (I would normally choose to weekend in HK before heading off to Tokyo, China or Manila for the next leg of my trip). In Asia folks really looked after their visitors. When Europeans and Asians came to NY we were not such good hosts.

[CaptBeefheart]

Ian R: No specific memory, but most expat bars in Asia will have League games on, followed by Union and footy. There are a couple of pubs here where I'll watch Bledisloe. The Aussie and Kiwi Chambers used to do an annual pissup at the local Hilton for one of the cup games--that was always a great outing.

fcooke: Back in the old days, before Seoul had a range of good expat joints, a trip to HK meant you hit up Ned Kelly's and a few other places. And to me, those pubs were inhabited by "locals," as in long-term expats. One time on business we went to a huge floating restaurant on the other side of Vitoria Peak--duck was the main attraction there.

Cheers,
CB

[fcooke]

My first time to HK and the PRC was in 89 (1989 you wankers, not 1889). In the PRC we stayed at Beijing University about a month before Tiamen Sq. I still wonder how many of those students might have been involved. We also went to Shanghai. A couple of locals sidled up to us and brought us to their favorite watering hole a ferry floating in the river. They wanted hard currency, so we drank at yuan rates for hours and got shellacked. I think we ended up paying two USD for the pleasure - and everyone was happy with the deal. Didn't get back to HK/Beijing/Shanghai again until roughly 2017. Didn't recognize any of the places and certainly could not buy part of a drink for 2 USD, never mind an evening of 4 college students with still functional livers.....

My colleagues who didn't travel were often like 'what's the big deal of flying from Tokyo to HK?' I was like look at a map - what's the big deal about flying from NY to SF? People need to get out more....but as much as it sometimes sucked, I miss the travel a bit.

[CaptBeefheart]

Asia is a great place to travel around. I've been to most of the countries (I should count how many WITP-AE bases I've been to sometime).

I was in Prague one time in '91 and spent a fun evening at U Fleku with some young eastern German guys. I ended up buying a few more than my share of rounds, which was fine as a round was $2 and they had yet to receive the full economic benefits of reunification. Luckily I could speak some rudimentary German in those days. It came in handy in that country as I met all of two people who spoke English.

I have a feeling a lot of chaps on this forum would be good to blow the froth off a few pints with. The only person I've done that with is Obvert, an all-around good guy, when I had a trip to London a few years back. It would be great to see him do another AAR.

Cheers,
CB

[BBfanboy]

+1. Obvert vs. Lowpe would be legendary!

[CV10]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

+1. Obvert vs. Lowpe would be legendary!

Their last game was legendary. Props to Lowpe for sticking with the game after the accidental soviet activation in 1942.

[Yaab]

Thread resurrection.

Found out why your average xAKs/xAPs are so resilient against CD gun fire.

Basically, cargo is roughly three categories

-resources, fuel, oil,supplies
-LCUs (devices)
-empty (no cargo)


Basically, when a ship carries resources/fuel/oil/supplies, this cargo will feed fires whenever the ship is hit by a bomb/shell/torpedo. You don't even have to carry a full cargo, something like 1/3 cargo load is enough to give you considerably more system/fire damage. The most important thing is that supplies behave here the same way as fuel/oil, probably because they also represent ammo.

HOWEVER, a ship carrying LCU (devices) as its cargo behaves like an EMPTY ship for damage calculations. LCU devices do not feed fires when a ship is hit. All damage is soaked then by ship durability. It seems strange, because devices are created out of supply, so devices should be flammable too since tanks/arty devices travel with their ammo, however the code deducts(?) any flammable ammo from LCU devices.

Basically, if you have an xAK/xAP loaded with an LCU and no supplies or "three day" supplies, and the ship is unloading under a heavy CD gun fire, the ship is treated as EMPTY for damage calculations. Once you unload everyone and remain on station, firing at the CD gun unit, the ship is still treated as EMPTY for damage calculations. Since most CD gun shots are soaked by the ship's superstructures, they give no floatation damage and fire damage accumulates slowly because the ship has no cargo to feed the fires.

This means ships loaded solely with supplies are at a greater risk of sinking during amphibious invasions and suffer more damage when hit by GP bombs.