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"Corinthian spirit" English public school BS. Taking part is the thing etc.

We have a medals table for a reason.

Winning is the thing.
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"Corinthian spirit" English public school BS. Taking part is the thing etc.

We have a medals table for a reason.

Winning is the thing.

That is the man who brought about the modern Olympics, are you stating that the reason for the games is wrong? Yes there are medals but getting there is also important. The people that the athletes meet there are also important. As a James Cameron Owen said "All the medals and cups I won could be melted down, and they would be worthless against the twenty-four carat friendship I made with Luz Long at that time."
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TEAM GB and Northern Ireland

Day 6

A lean day today for Team GB - more like the Olympics I was used to back in the 70s, 80's and 90's and the less than fun days of Team GB, pre-lottery, consisting largely of a bunch of plucky but gifted/hopeful/mad amateurs (not helped by the likes of the East Germans fielding men in the men's and women's swimming races......). [:(].

Back to the present, and no gold's today, but both medallists were considered gold contenders. These lack of gold medals are really hurting in Team GB's efforts to stay in the Top 10 of the leaderboard - not that top 10 was where we were even aiming. Top 4/5 was the goal I believe.

Almost, and in some ways just as, bad is the number of near misses. With one day left the rowing continues to be a total disaster; Helen Glover/Polly Swann (Women's Coxless Pair) and Emily Craig/Imogen Grant (Women's lightweight double sculls) added their names to a horrible statistic - the later by just 0.01 of a second). Team GB now has no less than FIVE 4th places in the rowing alone. With just 1 silver medal to show, this is a far cry from recent games. But speaking of rowing, well done to Fintan McCarthy and Paul O'Donovan for not only winning Ireland's first medal in the sport, but it happened to be gold!

What was great about recent games was the number of medals picked up across the board - meaning that there was more spread in Team GB than most, if not all, other countries. But this is not happening in Tokyo. Our last hopes have blown out in the Archery and Badminton today. More fallers in Judo and Boxing too (although we still have a couple of hopes in Boxing). Even two of our three success stories, Dressage and Taekwondo, have come with diluted medals - 0 gold in Taekwondo and only 2 bronze in Dressage. Unless we can add to our tally, even Swimming - where we've had unheard of gold success - has come at the expense of total numbers of medals won when compared to Rio.

My memory is also failing me in my frail dotage. I extolled the efforts of Messrs Fraser and Hall in the gymnastics yesterday, but somehow managed to forget that Team GB won SIX medals in gymnastics in Rio - including 1 in the men's all-round competition..... There won't be 6 this time [:(]

I think its clear that this will be no Rio, London or Beijing, but frankly at present we are struggling to match Athens or Sydney.....

Medal count after 6 days = 5 Gold, 7 silver and 6 bronze

Team GB remain in 6th in the medal table but continue to lose ground on those above.

Today in Bold

Gold - Adam Peatty (Swimming 100m Breastroke), Tom Pidcock (Men's Mountain Bike), Tom Daley/Matty Lee (Men's 10m Diving), Tom Dean (Swimming Men's 200m Freestyle), Dean, Scott, Guy, Richards (Swimming 4 x 200m Freestyle Relay)
Silver - Bradly Sinden (Men's Taekwondo - 68Kg) Alex Yee (Men's Triathlon), Lauren Williams (Woman's Taekwondo - 67Kg), Duncan Scott (Swimming Men's 200m Freestyle), Georgia Taylor-Brown (Womens Triathlon), Leask, Groom, Barras, Beaumont (Rowing Men's Qudruple Sculls), Mallory Franklin (Canoe Women's Slalom)
Bronze - Chelsie Giles (Women's Judo - 52kg), Bianca Walkden (Women's Taekwondo - 67Kg), Dujardin, Fry, Hester (Equestrian Team Dressage), Morgan, Kinsella, Gadirova Sisters (Women's Team Gymnastics), Charlotte Dujardin (Equestrian Individual Dressage), Matthew Coward-Holley (Shooting Men's Trap)


In the Canoe Slalom, Mallory Franklin was just pipped to the gold by the very last competitor to go. Agonising.....
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Well recovered by Matthew Coward-Holley, who looked to be in real trouble in round 2 of the Trap final
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No fairy tale ending for Helen Glover. The twice Olympic champion, went away after Rio, had three children and then came back. But sadly, alongside Polly Swann, she could only muster 4th place...
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Well, in the womens all around in the gymnastics, apparently a young lady who trained in Little Canada Land won the gold medal . . .
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Day 7

Another mixed bag today. Where would we be without another Rowing 4th Place? Well Vicky Thornley provided one in the Women's Single Sculls... Team GB ended the Rowing with 1 silver and 1 gold, the first time there has been no gold since 1980! There will be questions over the £27m spent.....

But on a brighter note, Team GB has equalled their medal tally from Rio in the swimming and the colour of the medals is better overall - 3G, 2S, 1B vs 1G, 5S, 0B. Luke Greenbank won Britain's first ever medal in the 200m Backstroke. There was some shenanigans in the post race press conference when the US runner-up effectively accused the Russian winner of not being clean... though he denied he was making that allegation.

When BMX Racing was introduced back in Beijing (anyone watched this? - it's mad, exciting and bloody dangerous!!) Team GB had two of the best in the world. But despite this, four Olympics later and still Team GB had won not a single medal. But today.....that all changed with a gold and silver. Nice.

Speaking of mad and dangerous, the height that they get on the trampoline is insane... and that's before they starting piking and tumbling and whatnot. Well done to Bryony Page on her second successive Olympic medal in that event.

And a special mention I think is deserved for the Team GB Women's Football team. I'm British, proud to be British and love football. But I am sooo pleased that Team GB lost to Australia in the quarter-final. They were truly pathetic. 2 minutes to go and with a 2-1 lead, they just need to see out the match. What happened? Well British footballers played like British footballers. What do you do if an Australian has the ball in the penalty area and you are one of THREE English defenders in front of her? Yes that's right, you don't try and block, you don't try and narrow the angle... you just stand there and wait for the ball to hit the back of the net. Absolutely pitiful, schoolgirl defending. And why, one might ask, did they allow a Scottish player to take our penalty? Everyone knows the English take them so much better [;)][8|]


Medal count after 7 days = 6 Gold, 9 silver and 9 bronze

Team GB remain in 6th in the medal table. The gold medal count is costing them. They have more medals than Australia and almost as many as Japan, but they are largely the wrong colour.

Today in Bold

Gold - Adam Peatty (Swimming 100m Breastroke), Tom Pidcock (Mens Mountain Bike), Tom Daley/Matty Lee (Mens 10m Diving), Tom Dean (Swimming Mens 200m Freestyle), Dean, Scott, Guy, Richards (Swimming Mens 4 x 200m Freestyle Relay), Bethany Shriever (Cycling Womens BMX Racing)

Silver - Bradly Sinden (Men's Taekwondo - 68Kg) Alex Yee (Men's Triathlon), Lauren Williams (Woman's Taekwondo - 67Kg), Duncan Scott (Swimming Men's 200m Freestyle), Georgia Taylor-Brown (Womens Triathlon), Leask, Groom, Barras, Beaumont (Rowing Men's Qudruple Sculls), Mallory Franklin (Canoe Women's Slalom), Kye Whyte (Cycling Mens BMX Racing), Duncan Scott (Swimming Mens 400m Medley)

Bronze - Chelsie Giles (Women's Judo - 52kg), Bianca Walkden (Women's Taekwondo - 67Kg), Dujardin, Fry, Hester (Equestrian Team Dressage), Morgan, Kinsella, Gadirova Sisters (Women's Team Gymnastics), Charlotte Dujardin (Equestrian Individual Dressage), Matthew Coward-Holley (Shooting Men's Trap), Bryony Page (Womens Trampoline), Luke Greenbank (Swimming Men's 200m Backstroke), Bugajski, Dawson, George, Sbihi, Elwes, Wynne-Griffith, Rudkin, Ford (Rowing Mens Eight)


Well done Bryony! Adding to the Trampolining silver she won in Rio, she takes home the bronze this time. I still can't get over the heights they reach...mad!
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BMX is equally as mad as the Trampoline. Some really nasty crashes today, one of which wiped out the defending champion from the USA and so was unable to take his place in the final. Ms Shriever won all three races in the semi and then bossed the final.
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Duncan Scott. Top man. Refused to share a podium with a Chinese drug cheat a few years ago (and who is banned from these games) and has today picked up his third medal of these games. That's pretty special for a British swimmer.
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Day 8

A day that started so well, but ended in disappointment. Two golds in Triathlon and Swimming were followed by a bronze for Emma Wilson in the Windsurfing, a second 4th place in the Rugby Sevens and then a bronze for Karriss Artingstall in the boxing. All three of the last named could have been better. We just have to hope that Emma's bronze kick starts some success in the Sailing.

The Triathlon gold was not wholly unexpected and it was great to see Johnny Brownlie complete the 'set' following his London bronze and Rio silver. Since the sport's introduction in 2000 Team GB has won the most gold medals (3) and the most medals (8) of any nation. The younger of the Brownlie brothers now follows big brother Alastair into retirement. Hopefully Alex Yee can continue to Paris 2024.

The Mixed Relay is such a cool idea - made interesting because the order that each goes in is up to the team. This means that there are huge gaps as the race progresses. So Team GB had a female swimmer - Kathleen Dawson leading off with backstroke (and they were solidly last after 100 metres), Adam Peatty then making up much of the ground with his incredible breastroke on the second leg, James Guy then building up a crucial lead over the Americans with butterfly on third, thus giving Anna Hopkin (freestyle) a chance on the final leg. The incredible US swimmer Caeleb Dressel had to hunt down Hopkin, but the lead was too great even for him (indeed the US team finished outside the medals).

The latest pool success means that we can at last put talk of 1908 to bed. Seven medals - four gold - is really encouraging. I've no idea how many of the current squad will continue to 2024, but hopefully the team can build on what is, for Team GB at least, a fantastic result.

The big concern is the lack of medal prospects in the athletics, and this wasn't helped by Dina Asher-Smith failing to qualify for the 100m and then pulling out of the 200m (it appears she got injured a few weeks before the games), although whether she could have medalled against the Jamaicans is not certain.

Medal count after 8 days = 8 Gold, 9 silver and 11 bronze

Team GB still remain in 6th in the medal table, but there are a number of nations behind them that seem to be getting into a groove....

Today in Bold

Gold - Adam Peatty (Swimming 100m Breastroke), Tom Pidcock (Mens Mountain Bike), Tom Daley/Matty Lee (Mens 10m Diving), Tom Dean (Swimming Mens 200m Freestyle), Dean, Scott, Guy, Richards (Swimming Mens 4 x 200m Freestyle Relay), Bethany Shriever (Cycling Womens BMX Racing) Dawson, Peatty, Guy, Hopkin (Swimming 4 x 100m Mixed Medley Relay), Learmonth, Brownlee, Taylor-Brown, Yee (Triathlon Mixed Relay)

Silver - Bradly Sinden (Men's Taekwondo - 68Kg) Alex Yee (Men's Triathlon), Lauren Williams (Woman's Taekwondo - 67Kg), Duncan Scott (Swimming Men's 200m Freestyle), Georgia Taylor-Brown (Womens Triathlon), Leask, Groom, Barras, Beaumont (Rowing Men's Qudruple Sculls), Mallory Franklin (Canoe Women's Slalom), Kye Whyte (Cycling Mens BMX Racing), Duncan Scott (Swimming Mens 400m Medley)

Bronze - Chelsie Giles (Women's Judo - 52kg), Bianca Walkden (Women's Taekwondo - 67Kg), Dujardin, Fry, Hester (Equestrian Team Dressage), Morgan, Kinsella, Gadirova Sisters (Women's Team Gymnastics), Charlotte Dujardin (Equestrian Individual Dressage), Matthew Coward-Holley (Shooting Men's Trap), Bryony Page (Womens Trampoline), Luke Greenbank (Swimming Men's 200m Backstroke), Bugajski, Dawson, George, Sbihi, Elwes, Wynne-Griffith, Rudkin, Ford (Rowing Mens Eight), Emma Wilson (Sailing Women's Windsurfing), Karriss Artingstall (Boxing Women's Featherweight)


Team GB are quite good at this Mixed Relay thingy!
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A couple of bronzes - but the margins were fine and so a tale of what might have been for Emma Wilson and Karriss Artingstall....
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The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win but to take part, just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.

Baron Pierre de Coubertin, who was quoting someone else.

Eric Moussambani Malonga is proof of that and what he did after is also important.


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win but to take part, just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.

Baron Pierre de Coubertin, who was quoting someone else.

Eric Moussambani Malonga is proof of that and what he did after is also important.


Hey Ranger Joe,

Just wanted to say "Thanks" and "Way to go" getting that WitP2 thread shuts down.

Good job, bruh.
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Why bring your ‘beef’ to this thread? Ranger Joe I trust you won’t react to this. Thank-you.
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I wonder if anyone finds the games more pleasant without the audience. It would be interesting to know the participants view.
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It was a sad thing for Simone Biles but her health and safety is most important. What is also important is her sportsmanship to let her teammate know not to leave Tokyo just yet. MyKayla Skinner came out of retirement for this:

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It was a sad thing for Simone Biles but her health and safety is most important.
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+1

I can’t imagine flying through the air tumbling and rolling and whatnot. But imagine doing that with your head not right? Scary. She did the right thing for herself and her team.
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Essential part of top sport is to deal with the psychological pressure.

If you break down, you failed. That is top sport.
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I stopped watching the Olympics when they screwed Roy Jones, Jr.
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US women's soccer team failed. I'm okay with that.
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Essential part of top sport is to deal with the psychological pressure.

If you break down, you failed. That is top sport.

You are incorrect. Sportsmanship is what counts more than winning.
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Essential part of top sport is to deal with the psychological pressure.

If you break down, you failed. That is top sport.

You are incorrect. Sportsmanship is what counts more than winning.

Dream on. That may be the case in your mind, but is not what fuels these games.

- an Olympic medal is eternal fame for the athlete
- the events are broadcast through a window of multinational advertisement
- it is a major nationalist flag waving opportunity, if it were about the sportsmanship the athletes would compete in their own name, without national flags. That and nationality has become a commodity to contract successful athletes.

This thread is proof: all pictures contain national flags.
Yeah, that is sportsmanship, to perform for King and Country.
But you still have to win a medal to make it count.
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