Sigizmund (CP) vs Bavre (Entente)

[Bavre]

Meanwhile on the Balkans: Putniks last stand, August 1915, colorized



This delayed Schlieffen really made me regret my decision to leave poor little Belgium alone. French troops mustering to invade themselves would have been in a perfect position. ONE TIME I don't play the invading warmonger and that's what I get!

So by now Verdun has inevitably fallen, France is at 60% NM, GB in the 90s, Russia in the 80s, Germany at 64% and Austria at 63%.

The Russians managed a little breakthrough in the Caucasus and a forray of the Baltic fleet killed a German Battlecruiser. Balkans will fall next turn, as will Basra.

Sub war is going so-so, 3 dead and several severely damaged subs but also quite a bit of damage to the convoys.

Overall both sides seem to show very serious signs of attrition, tech is very low for this date as every nation has to reroute enormous funds to replace losses.

[AshFall]

Sigizmund

Rally against morale decline or 1915 year campaign.

After 3 months of heavy fighting allong all western front-line from Nancy to British channel Verdun surround consolidated and i got foothold on left bank of Somma river. Ofc it cause heavy casualties for all 3 nation armies here. It good news for Ottoman armies because British can't reinforce Persian gulf front.

But is western Entente front gonna collapse? Who will have technology advantage in battle for Paris? Does German morale have chance to recover? When gonna became turning point for Russia and it turns into unbeatable monster? 1915 year will show...

[OldCrowBalthazor]

Will be interesting to see what the colossus of the east [Russia] can do to relieve the Western Entente. So Italy being out sometimes is a blessing in disguise for the Entente if France is in such a difficult position as they can't support their new allies.

Austria's NM can recover..very very slowly..as can Germany's as they press West.
Still...the Russians once rolling are truly formidable, especially if CP tech is coming up slow..as it seems here.

Again, totally awesome AAR from you guys..thanks for doing this.

[Bavre]

ORIGINAL: OldCrowBalthazor

Will be interesting to see what the colossus of the east [Russia] can do to relieve the Western Entente. So Italy being out sometimes is a blessing in disguise for the Entente if France is in such a difficult position as they can't support their new allies.

Austria's NM can recover..very very slowly..as can Germany's as they press West.
Still...the Russians once rolling are truly formidable, especially if CP tech is coming up slow..as it seems here.

Again, totally awesome AAR from you guys..thanks for doing this.

Everyones tech is slow and the current tech leader (as in spent most money) is Russia. The first level 1 inf just showed up and it's an Austrian who immediately died to unsupported inf attacks from Kornilov despite being entrenched. This ceding territory to Italy really messed up AH.

In the Baltic Russian and German ships clash, one german DD and CA are crippled for minor Russian losses and an unseen ship strikes a Russian mine.

While the Entente capitals in the med are shorebombarding the s**t out of the Turks near Suez, the Austrian navy makes a forray and kills a GB DD of the mediteranian ASW task force.

The air war is going really well for the Entente, as Rene Fonck repeatedly sends the clowns from the Kaisers flying circus packing.

CP decided to do a blitzgreek and the Bulgarians are approaching Athens.

[AshFall]

ORIGINAL: Bavre

ORIGINAL: OldCrowBalthazor

Will be interesting to see what the colossus of the east [Russia] can do to relieve the Western Entente. So Italy being out sometimes is a blessing in disguise for the Entente if France is in such a difficult position as they can't support their new allies.

Austria's NM can recover..very very slowly..as can Germany's as they press West.
Still...the Russians once rolling are truly formidable, especially if CP tech is coming up slow..as it seems here.

Again, totally awesome AAR from you guys..thanks for doing this.

Everyones tech is slow and the current tech leader (as in spent most money) is Russia. The first level 1 inf just showed up and it's an Austrian who immediately died to unsupported inf attacks from Kornilov despite being entrenched. This ceding territory to Italy really messed up AH.

In the Baltic Russian and German ships clash, one german DD and CA are crippled for minor Russian losses and an unseen ship strikes a Russian mine.

While the Entente capitals in the med are shorebombarding the s**t out of the Turks near Suez, the Austrian navy makes a forray and kills a GB DD of the mediteranian ASW task force.

The air war is going really well for the Entente, as Rene Fonck repeatedly sends the clowns from the Kaisers flying circus packing.

CP decided to do a blitzgreek and the Bulgarians are approaching Athens.

"Blitzgreek" is probably my new favourite word! [:D]

[AshFall]

Sigizmund

Summer campaign of 1915.

It began with BEF counter-attack at Somme and German troops captured Reims.
Verdun and Nancy fall same day at July 10th. But Entente have a solid strong front-line with British behind Somme at left flank and French behind good natural-defence ground at centre and forts at south.
Anyway Germans keeps pressure on west in hope of finishing France before winter. At end of July German avant-garde captures Chalons and main force - Toul fort. At 7th August after bloody battle Germans gets strong foothold behind Marn river and only 100kms between the Paris and German army!







In the end of summer Germans gets 60kms close to Paris from the east and crossed Somma near the sea... Looks like there is lot of open ground on western front-line so Kaiser already making plans of dinner in Versaille.


Meanwhile after ending Serbo-Montenegro campaign in mid summer CP decide to start invasion in Greece by Bulgarian army and with support of Austro-Hungarian 1st army in hope to ping some British force to protect Greece convoys and boost A-H morale by capturing Salonika...

[OldCrowBalthazor]

"Blitzgreek". Yeah, Bavre comes up with some funny s#/t. The Versaille dining scene hilarious too. [:D]

Was curious to see the Eastern Front also.

Very nice...very nice..easy to follow AAR. Kind of like a graphic novel you guys are publishing cooperatively

[Bavre]

ORIGINAL: OldCrowBalthazor

"Blitzgreek". Yeah, Bavre comes up with some funny s#/t. The Versaille dining scene hilarious too. [:D]

Was curious to see the Eastern Front also.

Very nice...very nice..easy to follow AAR. Kind of like a graphic novel you guys are publishing cooperatively

The eastern front has practically not moved in 1915 at all, just grinding and dying.
Here's the butchers bill at the end of 15



NM stands at

GB 83%
FR 52%
RU 80%
GER 44%
AH 60%
OE 77%

Losses so far:

GB 4862
FR 10017
RU 12974
GER 21297
AH 9157
OE 3274

Despite being at 44% NM the German units are still clearly superior and slowly grind towards Paris. I mean seriously, those guys still have unit morale in the 90s. Sigizmund must have a really high level in inf tech.

Greece has almost fallen, so the AH and OE fleets unite and a big battle for the med begins. In 2 turns all 4 involved fleets loose their flagships.

In the Baltic sporadic skirmishing continues and the Germans manage to destroy the Russian DN while he's in port. Why do you hate me RNG?

The sub war in the Atlantic seems over for now with half the Kaisers grey wolves at the bottom of the ocean but also a lot of damage to the Entente economy.

[AshFall]

Absolutely brutal.

The Central Powers have lost considerably more pure MPP wise than the Entente, and yet...

Do you think it's primarily infantry warfare tech and command & Control doing that Bavre? What's the Central powers tech/dip investment and income graphs like compared to yours?

[Sigizmund]

Where do you check this statistic?

[AshFall]

ORIGINAL: Sigizmund

Where do you check this statistic?

In the "Reports" tab, the "graphs" button in the lower right of the window.

There you can check MPP income from turn to turn, losses, convoy losses, research and diplomacy investments and more

[Sigizmund]

But how to get such table?

[AshFall]

ORIGINAL: Sigizmund

But how to get such table?

The one Bavre posted? Sorry, I probably misunderstood what you meant the first time, of course you knew about the graphs. My apologies.

The table is seen by clicking "detailed losses". Cant get a table for the rest, have to click around to each individual nation.

[Bavre]

ORIGINAL: Sigizmund

Where do you check this statistic?

Reports -> detailed losses

ORIGINAL: AshFall

Absolutely brutal.

The Central Powers have lost considerably more pure MPP wise than the Entente, and yet...

Actually the Entente have lost more MPP (I just forgot Serbia, but they're dead, also the statistic does not factor in the 50% repair or 60% rebuy prices), kind off like in every game unless the CP player is very inexperienced, which Sigizmund definitely isn't. The point of Entente gameplay imho is not so much to outfight CP but to outlast them. Their units are for most of the game simply a lot better, but their "health bar" is only German NM, while they have to chew through both the French and Russian. This leads to lot of deny and delay kind of strategy that may make the Entente a bit unsexy for some.

ORIGINAL: AshFall
Do you think it's primarily infantry warfare tech and command & Control doing that Bavre? What's the Central powers tech/dip investment and income graphs like compared to yours?

Must be inf warfare (or drugs). C&C does not affect morale but directly adds to readiness, making it and having good Generals very important in the late game. Things that give direct readiness can not be demoralized away by cannons, so your units will be in much better shape after the barrage.
Tech wise every ones tech kind of ducks here, seems all the scientists are busy shooting each other in the trenches. Russia has spent the most so far at ~2200, followed by Germany with ~1500.
Total diplo investment of all countries combined by the end of 15: nada

[OldCrowBalthazor]

This AAR is very imformative. I understand that its a big grind in the east..but I would like to see a screen shot or two of the map if possible from either side if that's okay. Let's just say professional interest, particularly the Russians. [:)]

I have played Entente about 60% of the time in MP matches, and I can attest that as Bavre said, "Its a bit unsexy."
Well...he's on the whole, right..except if given the chance, the Russians break into Hungary and/or Anatolia. Then..well, its some hot steamy action for the Entente. [:D]

I would have to say though, playing the Entente requires patience, with a long road ahead of delay, till mid game. Against a skilled Central Powers player...this can be very challenging.

[Bavre]

Since Sigizmund will go on camping vacation tomorrow, a 2 week armistice has been proclaimed.

In the meantime the latest developments:

It's summer 16 now and Paris has changed hands 5 times. Both sides managed two breakthroughs to the others cannons, only damage to the guns however, no kills.
Overall both sides don't look to peachy on the western front. As far as I can see there are hardly any full strength units around on either side due to the frantic fighting.

After a longer break for upgrading and overstrengthening (and totally not for sitting out the morale effects of the greek surrender) the french ace of aces is back in the sky. After a German fighter is spotted on a swamp tile (neg def) relatively close to the frontline, Fonck is dispatched for a direct attack. In the resulting engagements with both the target and another squadron that tried to cover it, the french squadron downs 5 huns while loosing one french plane.

The big naval battle for the med is going rather poorly for the Entente, but as the Viribus Unitis comes about for another attack run, she's suddenly whacked by explosions from bow to stern while smoke on the horizont indicates the arrival of new ships. Having anticipated the CP naval offensive after them gaining the greek harbors, Royal Navy command has sent reinforcements, including almost their entire sub fleet, and not a moment too soon. The captain of the Jean Bart is later quoted with saying "Never has a french sailor been happier to see british ships". After the battle there are 4 CP ships left in the med: the Prinz Eugen, 1 AH CA, 1 AH sub and 1 turkish PD, the latter 3 down to 1-3 points.

In the Baltic the brave men of the Tsars fleet rally and despite the tragic loss of their flagship, they manage to fight off the onslaught of the Hochseeflotte and force them to retreat.

In the Caucasus and Sinai both sides furiously attack each other with harsh language.

@ OCB:
Just made a screen of the eastern front, however there's now movement, so it's classified at the moment [;)]
After a break for some serious upgrading the Russians just started another big push. As a reaction the Austrians made use of the additional units from the greek front to start a big relief attack out of Galicia in support of the crumbling German front.

Since I managed to kill a lot of German NM in the first two turns, I decided to make it my main target at the expense of everything else. So there has been not much action in the side theatres besides the occasional attacks of opportunity. I even ignored Galicia until Austria ceded to Italy. This literally turned the AH corps into little more than training dummies, so I attacked to grind some HQ XP and took the oilfields in the process. I managed to max out both Brussilov and Kornilov, which is otherwise really difficult with the weak russian units and has proven VERY helpful so far.

[OldCrowBalthazor]

By the goddess of war I say this match is one for the books! Thanks for the updates.

In the Caucasus and Sinai both sides furiously attack each other with harsh language.

Your one funny fellow, Bavre. Almost makes me nostalgic for the harsh beatings I got from you in the two Montenegro Gambit Tests...
Almost..I say. [:D]

[AshFall]

Haha!

Very nice!

Thank you for the update Bavre.

I'm dying to know what Sigizmund has done for research, where he put his chits and his plan.

Also, Oldcrow, the humor and the many laughs from the Montenegro thread are (aside from both of your game knowledge and skill) the reasons I really want to see an AAR in this format from the two of you!

[Wurstkommode]

I just started playing a random game against Sigizmund and he did a Russia + Balkan first with the second wave of Subs also going after the NM targets of Britain. Is this worth it, as it gets the US economy going early while only slightly damaging the UK one, especially as the UK is not heavily engaged (in my game). Is the calculation different if the UK has to fight in France?

A bit off topic but I hope it is ok. Nice MP AAR, not many of those on the WW1 Forum!

[AshFall]

ORIGINAL: Wurstkommode

I just started playing a random game against Sigizmund and he did a Russia + Balkan first with the second wave of Subs also going after the NM targets of Britain. Is this worth it, as it gets the US economy going early while only slightly damaging the UK one, especially as the UK is not heavily engaged (in my game). Is the calculation different if the UK has to fight in France?

A bit off topic but I hope it is ok. Nice MP AAR, not many of those on the WW1 Forum!

I have no idea...

Given a long enough game the US will enter anyway. The impact on British Economy is huge if you shut down all the convoy routes, which takes 3-4 turns.

Having raiders in all four areas cancel out the effects of the blockade (a full blockade does 320 nm damage per turn, a full unrestricted warfare attack gives 300).

Also, the damage to UK NM is actually pretty big. 75NM per square per turn! I dont know if this is counted in both your own and enemy turns. I think it may be both, in that case it's quite the hurt.