Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[Parel803]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Istiklal class, P201, Patrol Boat, Country navy/Gc</summary>
<detail>
Seven boats have been ordererd, Five launched. Tunesian build.
Length 26.5, Beam 5.8, Draft 1.26. Displ 80t
Unk EO & Nav radars
1x 20mm gun, 2x 12.7mm MG
Max speed 25 kts. Range 600 nm.
Crew 18
Machinery 2x Rolls Royce each 3200 hp
</detail>
<evidence>
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/tunisian ... 11/page-81
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/t ... -m-vessel/
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... l-jem.html
http://old-navypedia.org/ships/tunisia/ ... klal15.htm
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

[Parel803]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Semilang class, 2161, Patrol Boat (PB), Malaysian Coastguard (MMEA)</summary>
<detail>From JFS2013/2014
Transferred from former fishery department
Displacement full 78t, Length 21m, Wide 5.5m, Draft 1.5m
Speed 25 kts, Complement 14,
I-band navigation radar
Machinery 2x Deutz SBA 12M 816SR diesels, 2 shafts
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... ilang.html
https://infogalactic.com/info/Malaysian ... ent_Agency
https://aseanregionalforum.asean.org/wp ... laysia.pdf
https://defense-studies.blogspot.com/20 ... -boat.html
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/malaysi ... g_p101.htm
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

[14yellow14]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Update AC-130W (2017) with 105mm cannon and LSDB (also for AC-130J)</summary>


<detail>
Originally, the AC-130W Stinger II was not equipped with a 105mm howitzer cannon like previous AC-130 variants had been. But after reassessing past combat missions and considering Airmen feedback, the U.S. Air Force reversed it's decision and refitted the Stinger gunships with the big 105mm cannon in 2017.

In addition, the AC-130W/J can drop LSDB laser-guided bombs. The weapon, which uses the same semi-active laser sensor as the JDAM, allows for its aim point to be precisely adjusted while it is still in flight. So it can engange moving targets.






</detail>

<evidence>

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/9 ... tely-needs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSvSQdfyFAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZkEdugAzmo

</evidence>

Thanks!

[14yellow14]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>The SM-6 missile has a much longer anti-surface range.</summary>

<detail>


In a recent test the SM-6 missile has demonstrated an anti-surface range greater than 250 miles (402 km).

Using a blend of information from unmanned and manned ships and aircraft, a guided-missile destroyer launched an anti-surface missile from over-the-horizon to hit a target more than 250 miles away without using active sensors as part of the Unmanned Integrated Battle Problem 21

The information was relayed to USS John Finn (DDG-113), which used the blended targeting data to fire a Standard Missile-6 to hit the target more than 200 miles away and beyond the range of its powerful radar.

Currently in the DB the range of the SM-6 is much shorter:

RIM-174A ERAM SM-6 Blk IA - (2017, ABM, Anti-Surface) Guided Weapon
Air Max: 130 nm/240.8 km. Surface Max: 130 nm/240.8 km.

Probably, anti-air range is much longer too:

The SM-6 is estimated to have a range of over 200 nautical miles (370km) and flies at Mach 3.5, giving it the ability to hit an adversary at a long range with little to no warning from defensive radars.

</detail>


<evidence>
https://news.usni.org/2021/04/26/unmann ... -with-sm-6
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/filli ... lian-navy/
https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/sm-6/
</evidence>

Thanks!

[Parel803]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Deniz Han class (C92 design), 01, Corvette, Turkmen Navy (Turkmenistan)</summary>
<detail>
Turmenistan Build in coop with Turkey
Length 91.4m, Beam 13.3m, Draught 3.5m
Displacement 1600t
1x8 MBDA Otomat Mk2 Block IV SSM, 16-cell VLS for VL MICA SR-SAM, 76mm/62 Leonardo super rapid gun, Torpedo launchers. The center of the rear of the hull is equipped with Turkish "KORKUT-D" dual 35mm near-anti-cannons, and two 35mm Oerlikon KDC-02 automatic guns, Two sets of 25mm STOP remote-controlled weapon stations of Turkish Aselsan company and two sets of 12.7mm STAMP remote-controlled weapon stations are installed on both sides, six-tube 196mm jammer launchers from Turkish Roketsan company,
Flightdeck, no hager
4x MAN 18VP185 diesel engine, Max speed 26 kts, Range 300 nm, crew 100
C-band Kronos 3D active phased array radar, Ku-band fire control radar, Hull-Mounted sonar, ES/EA, TorpCounter, Nav radar
</detail>
<evidence>
https://inf.news/en/military/d52994fd7c ... fa0e3.html
https://www.swafricanews.com/nigerian-n ... ey-vessel/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... deniz-han/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qeql2Zav3h4
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/nava ... w-turkmen/
https://en.defenceturk.net/dearsan-c92- ... kmenistan/
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

[14yellow14]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>ADD new Long Range Discrimination Radar (LRDR) IOC 2021</summary>
<detail>

The Long Range Discrimination Radar (LRDR) program is the backbone of the Missile Defense Agency’s layered defense strategy to protect the U.S. homeland from ballistic missile attack.

LRDR is a multi-mission, multi-face radar capable of conducting missile defense and space domain awareness (SDA) missions through a 220 degree wide field of view. LRDR tracks and discriminates multiple threats simultaneously, providing precision track and discrimination data to Missile Defense System (MDS) firing units such as the Ground-Based Midcourse Defense (GMD) System. For SDA, LRDR can monitor satellites orbiting the earth, detecting, tracking, and identifying active/inactive satellites, spent rocket bodies, or fragmentation debris.

Only a few technical details are known about the LRDR. It has two antenna faces. Artist renderings of the LRDR suggest that the boresites of the two faces are separated by about 120°, which is consistent with the reported requirement that the LRDR must have a “wide instantaneous field of view to enable wide area defense”(see my post of January 30, 2019). It is known that the LRDR operates in S-Band, which extends from 2 GHz to 4 GHz.

Estimating the Range of the Long Range Discrimination Radar (April 2, 2019):
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2019/0 ... il-2-2019/

</detail>
<evidence>
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2019/0 ... y-30-2019/
https://web.archive.org/web/20210318000 ... f/lrdr.pdf
https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/lrdr/
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2019/0 ... il-2-2019/
</evidence>

Thanks!

[Kushan04]

ORIGINAL: 14yellow14

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>ADD new Long Range Discrimination Radar (LRDR) IOC 2021</summary>
<detail>

The Long Range Discrimination Radar (LRDR) program is the backbone of the Missile Defense Agency’s layered defense strategy to protect the U.S. homeland from ballistic missile attack.

Only a few technical details are known about the LRDR. It has two antenna faces. Artist renderings of the LRDR suggest that the boresites of the two faces are separated by about 120°, which is consistent with the reported requirement that the LRDR must have a “wide instantaneous field of view to enable wide area defense”(see my post of January 30, 2019). It is known that the LRDR operates in S-Band, which extends from 2 GHz to 4 GHz.

Estimating the Range of the Long Range Discrimination Radar (April 2, 2019):
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2019/0 ... il-2-2019/



</detail>
<evidence>
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2019/0 ... y-30-2019/
https://web.archive.org/web/20210318000 ... f/lrdr.pdf
https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/lrdr/
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2019/0 ... il-2-2019/
</evidence>

Thanks!

Was able to find this as well. The one currently being built at Clear SFS will have a 220-degree arc according to it.

https://mda.mil/global/documents/pdf/lrdr.pdf

[ywturbo]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Correct Chinese J-10C (#2057) PL-15 missile datalink channel from 1 to 12</summary>
<detail>In several DB3k versions up to v489 J-10C has only 1 PL-15 missile datalink and can only launch 1 PL-15 missile at one time. Since oldler variant J-10B (#4617) has 12 channels of PL-15 missile datalink, it must be obviously a typo and should be corrected. </detail>

[Parel803]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, El-Kasseh class (Lerici/Katanpää), 501, Minehunter (MCM), Algerian Navy</summary>
<detail>2 of 3 vessels commissioned
Italian Lerici in current DB #966 (latest) and #1704. OS states more so based on the Finnisch Katanpaa #3012
Italian build, Intermarine
</detail>
<evidence>
http://old-navypedia.org/ships/algeria/ ... sseh_1.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lerici-class_minehunter
https://warsearcher.com/shipsearcher/al ... e-vessels/
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/afri ... 594/page-5
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/sea/sea-se ... es-vessel/
https://www.militaryimages.net/threads/ ... 82/page-17
https://www.militaryimages.net/threads/ ... 82/page-11
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

[Parel803]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Deneb (Ocea FPB98 Mk I), 334, Fast Patrol Boat (FPB), Algerian Coastguard</summary>
<detail>Build by Ocea, France. 21 units, commissioned between 2008 and 2011
Length 31,8m, Width 6.3, Draught 1,2, Displ st 100t, Displ full 118t, Crew 13 + 1 extra, Max speed 30? kts, Range 1200 at 12 kts
2x Furuno Nav radar, 1 x 1 - 30/75 DS-30B, Macinery 2x Caterpillar C32 diesels, 2x waterjets, 3660 Hp
</detail>
http://old-navypedia.org/ships/algeria/alg_gc_deneb.htm
https://far-maroc.forumpro.fr/t3826p765 ... p-tome-xiv
https://www.bairdmaritime.com/work-boat ... rian-navy/
https://www.ocea-ssm.com/fpb-98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWB2UQWf2jk
https://www.militaryimages.net/attachme ... pg.201427/
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

[Parel803]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Rais Hassen Barbiar (C62), 807, Corvette, Algerian Navy</summary>
<detail>A larger version of the Djebel Chenoua class
Algerian build, ECRN Mers-El-Kebir
Commisioned in 2017
Length 62m, Width 8.45m, Draught 2,5m, Displ st 600t
3 shafts, 3x MTU 16V595 TE diesels, max speed 28 kts
2x2 C-802 SSM, 1x 76/59 AK-176 76mm gun, 1x 6-30/54 AK-630 30mm CIWS
Possible same sensor fit as Djebel Chenoua class
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/sea/sea-se ... -corvette/
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-alge ... 2/page-157
https://weaponews.com/news/13041-navy-a ... yards.html
http://old-navypedia.org/ships/algeria/ ... arbiar.htm
https://www.nairaland.com/1386870/afric ... ictly/1664
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djebel_Ch ... s_corvette
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

[Parel803]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, El Khattabi class (Lazaga), P304, Patrol Vessel / Missile Boat (PGG), Moroccan Navy</summary>
<detail>
Bazan Shipyard, Spain build, first commissioned in 1981
The Spain Lazaga class ship are Scrapped and two are sold to Colombia where one is sunk for a sinkex and the second one is retired. The 4 Moroccans are believed to be active, lastest OS ref found of 2020
Src JFS 13/14
Length 58.1, Beam 7.6, Draught 2.7, Displacement full 432t,
Max speed 30 kts, Range 3000 at 15
Crew 41
Machinery 2x MTU 16V956RB91 diesels, 7500 hp(m) (5.51 MW) sustained, 2 shafts
4x SSM38 Exocet, 76mm(3 in)/62 Oto Melara, 1 x 40 (1.57 in)/70 Breda-Bofors, 2x 20mm/90 (0,79 in) Oerlikon
ZW06, 2x Furuno nav. WM-25.
Refitted in Spain in 08/09
</detail>
<evidence>
https://warsearcher.com/shipsearcher/ro ... rol-ships/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqk0XXuzN0Q
https://www.seaforces.org/marint/Morocc ... -class.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazaga-cl ... rol_vessel
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

[Parel803]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Interceptor 1503 FRP Open, -, Fast Patrol, Moroccan Navy</summary>
<detail>
Not much evidence of delivering other than an image. Lots of refs to the order.
Length: 14.5, Beam 3.5, Depth at side 1.9, Draught 0.9/1.3, Crew 2 + 6 extra.
Max Speed 55 with range 190
3x Volvo D6-370, 816 bKW@3500 rpm,
Radome nav radar, searchligth, VHF
Weight 1.5t. Hull E-glass and carbon reinforced epoxy
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/WarriorMorocco/stat ... 55/photo/1 image of interceptor from twitter
https://twitter.com/WarriorMorocco/stat ... 51/photo/4
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... damen.html
https://products.damen.com/en/ranges/in ... 3-frp-open
https://products.damen.com/-/media/prod ... 75980342f7
https://products.damen.com/-/media/prod ... 201cc3bdab
https://www.meretmarine.com/fr/node/136693
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

[Fox13]

So, I suppose this is the appropriate place to notify you guys about difficulties and faults, isn't it? To test the newly introduced SAMP-T system, I created a very simple scenario.

This test demonstrates that, despite official data on ground fire, the Patriot AN/MPQ-65 radar has about the same ground fire range and greater target tracking. More rapid response and reaction time. And, despite the technical differences, a slower firing rate. Furthermore, THE Aster 30 missile has an extremely strange flight path.

The scenario:

https://www.filemail.com/d/aayemcsroqlkmsh


So I'm hoping you can find and fix the problem here.

The GroundFire radar's range is also presented. According to this video given by Thales, it has a range of 400km.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vQyMr8Dszk&t=14s

thank you for your great work!

[cdnice]

<type>Correction</type>
<summary> Ship#3192, Type 26, Canadian Navy</summary>
<detail> Given that the ship has been announced to equip both the CAMM as well as ESSM/SM-2's the ship will require COMMS for both. Currently it only has the ASTER Command Datalink. Please add AEGIS datalink.
<evidence> Attachment below shows issue when adding ESSM/SM-2's


Royal Canadian Navy Unveils New Details On CSC Frigates

[anlgzl]

hi,

is it possible to update the t129's weapon loadout regarding to these documents

https://www.tusas.com/content/files/upl ... tak_EN.pdf
https://www.tusas.com/en/products/helic ... /t129-atak

thanks in advance

[CV60]

<type>Correction</type>
<summary> Possible incorrect range on AA-7 Apex B (R-23T) Weapon_789</summary>
<detail> Database gives max range of 16 nm. The Apex B used the same missile body as the SAHR Apex A, so it had enough fuel to go 16 nm. However, the the 23T3 IR seeker was incapable of seeking most heat sources beyond about 6 nm/11 km (vice the 10 nm listed in the database. This effectively limited the maximum engagement range to 11 km at launch, or a realistic max range (depending on target geometry) of around 9 nm. Possibly change the seeker head range or alternatively, the max range to reflect this limitation. )
<evidence> Chart below is from "Mladenov, Alexander "Soviet Cold War Fighters" See also "Vympel R-23 E R-24 (AA-7 Apex)." Aerei Militari | Aeronautica Militare | Aviazione Militare. Accessed September 2, 2021. https://www.aereimilitari.org/Armamenti/R-23-Apex.htm; R-23 (missile)." Memim.com. Accessed September 2, 2021. https://memim.com/r-23-missile.html;

[KLAB]

<type>New</type>
<summary>Russian Forepost-R UCAV (IAI Searcher) 2021</summary>
<detail>Russia first ordered IAI Searcher UAV directly from Israel then produced a domestic copy the FOREPOST-R which is in the DB. Deliveries of the domestic copy began 2019. Later developments have seen the Forepost armed with 2 x KAB-20 GPS mini munitions not dissimilar to the Turkish MAM-L.
So the request is also for the KAB-20 to be added as a weapon the capabilities of which appear akin to the 8km ranged GPS/GLONASS MAM-L
Ideally please add a Forepost-R armed UCAV from 2021 given the YouTube clip. </detail>
<evidence>

"IAI Searcher - Wikipedia" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Searcher
https://youtu.be/qQPPvD-Qpyk
https://saidpvo.livejournal.com/979205.html
Copy existing DB entry.
http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/4038/ and add 2 x KAB-20 loadout.
</evidence>

Thanks
K

[CV60]

<type>Correction</type>
<summary> Nomenclature correction to Mys-M1E DB3K Facility_3064, 3063, and 3062</summary>
<detail> The game refers to the fixed version of the radar. The Mys-M1E is the mobile version of the radar. MR-10M1E is the fixed/ stationary version of the same radar
<evidence> Coastal Radar Mys-M1E | Catalog Rosoboronexport." &#1056;&#1086;&#1089;&#1086;&#1073;&#1086;&#1088;&#1086;&#1085;&#1101;&#1082;&#1089;&#1087;&#1086;&#1088;&#1090; | &#1054;&#1092;&#1080;&#1094;&#1080;&#1072;&#1083;&#1100;&#1085;&#1099;&#1081; &#1089;&#1072;&#1081;&#1090;. Accessed September 16, 2021. https://roe.ru/eng/catalog/naval-system ... s/mys-m1e/ ; "Coastal Radar Mys-M1E | Catalog Rosoboronexport." &#1056;&#1086;&#1089;&#1086;&#1073;&#1086;&#1088;&#1086;&#1085;&#1101;&#1082;&#1089;&#1087;&#1086;&#1088;&#1090; | &#1054;&#1092;&#1080;&#1094;&#1080;&#1072;&#1083;&#1100;&#1085;&#1099;&#1081; &#1089;&#1072;&#1081;&#1090;. Accessed September 16, 2021. https://roe.ru/eng/catalog/naval-system ... s/mys-m1e/.

[KLAB]

<type>New</type>
<summary>AW189 SAR Helicopter (Commercial/Civilian) 2013</summary>
<detail>The Agusta Westland AW189 commercial helicopter is the civil version of the AW149 which is in the running for the UK New Medium Helicopter (Puma HC2, Griffin HAR2, Bell 212 and AS365 Dauphin II replacement) requirement and is being put to use for parapublic commercial SAR in the UK via Bristow for HMCG and in the AW149 for other militaries. Egypt and Thailand are using the AW149 version primarily for transport but also SAR. Egypt has ordered 8 x AW189 for SAR. Having the AW189 commercial version will provide a useful platform in its own right and a template for what will probably be a significant type in the near term for other military tier 1 users.
Loadouts
Passengers x 12 Troops (16 civil passengers)
SAR with FLIR EO turret NVG's Satcomm and Searchlight.
Cargo 0.8 tonne.
</detail>
<evidence>
Hat in the Ring pp44 October 21 Airforces Monthly. Issue 403.
"AgustaWestland AW149 - Wikipedia" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_AW149
https://www.leonardocompany.com/en/prod ... aign=AW149
https://www.leonardocompany.com/en/prod ... commercial


The companies product page pretty much covers the stats and performance, details of the specific sensors for the military types will no doubt emerge in due course but the basic airframe is well documented.
</evidence>
For consideration
K