Smoke protection

Gavris Narcis · Post by **Gavris Narcis** » Fri Jul 06, 2001 5:51 pm

Did the smoke provide any protection from enemy fire ? In which way ?

Leo.

sven · Post by **sven** » Fri Jul 06, 2001 5:52 pm

Originally posted by Gavris Narcis:
Did the smoke provide any protection from enemy fire ? In which way ?

Leo.

Gavris yes it does. The enemy cannot shoot you if he cannot see you. You stay behind the smoke screen and see what happens.

regards,
sven

Gavris Narcis · Post by **Gavris Narcis** » Fri Jul 06, 2001 5:57 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sven:
[QB]

Gavris yes it does. The enemy cannot shoot you if he cannot see you. You stay behind the smoke screen and see what happens.

Not at that I think. I supposed that I'm in a hex with smoke and enemy fired at me.

Leo.

sven · Post by **sven** » Fri Jul 06, 2001 6:00 pm

Originally posted by Gavris Narcis:

Originally posted by sven:
[QB]

Gavris yes it does. The enemy cannot shoot you if he cannot see you. You stay behind the smoke screen and see what happens.

Not at that I think. I supposed that I'm in a hex with smoke and enemy fired at me.

Leo.
Were they adjacent? In the same hex? It is not an absolute thing, but it does help.

regards,
sven

Paul Vebber · Post by **Paul Vebber** » Fri Jul 06, 2001 6:23 pm

Smoke obscures LOS if enough is present, but more usualy decreases teh likely hood of being spotted. IF teh enemy already knows where you are, poping smoke does little to help you until next turn. The best way to use smoke is to pop smoke and then move away. If you move up and Then pop smoke after you are already spotted it wil do little.

Belisarius · Post by **Belisarius** » Fri Jul 06, 2001 7:53 pm

Gavris, if you're IN the smoke hex, the enemy is likely to spot you if they're close enough and in good order.

Now, if you have the smoke hex between yourself and the enemy, it will block their LOS.. at least enough for you to get away. It will clear, eventually.

murr · Post by **murr** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 3:25 am

Smoke works great , especially against fortified positions or river crossings.Of course to optimize it you can pop it and then only move 1 hex at a time , but it seems more realistic that way and that seems to be what everyone wants.

Greenlake · Post by **Greenlake** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 3:32 am

Yep, nothing like a good smoke screen infront of some bunkers, or a Tiger for that matter.

Gavris Narcis · Post by **Gavris Narcis** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 6:49 am

Originally posted by Paul Vebber:
Smoke obscures LOS if enough is present, but more usualy decreases teh likely hood of being spotted. IF teh enemy already knows where you are, poping smoke does little to help you until next turn. The best way to use smoke is to pop smoke and then move away. If you move up and Then pop smoke after you are already spotted it wil do little.

Not this I think at ! If a unit is in a smoke hex the enemy chance to kill is the same if the unit is in the same hex but without smoke ?

Leo.

Gavris Narcis · Post by **Gavris Narcis** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 6:52 am

Originally posted by Belisarius:
Gavris, if you're IN the smoke hex, the enemy is likely to spot you if they're close enough and in good order.

Now, if you have the smoke hex between yourself and the enemy, it will block their LOS.. at least enough for you to get away. It will clear, eventually.

Not this I think at ! If a unit is in a smoke hex the enemy chance to kill is the same if the unit is in the same hex but without smoke ?

Leo.

tracer · Post by **tracer** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 6:59 am

I'm staying out of this one. You don't have to hit me on the head with a granatgomb

Gavris Narcis · Post by **Gavris Narcis** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 7:30 am

Originally posted by tracer:
I'm staying out of this one. You don't have to hit me on the head with a granatgomb

Hey, don't laugh, because in smoke area it is difficult to precise aiming the enemy ! Isn't it ?

Leo.

sven · Post by **sven** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 7:42 am

Originally posted by tracer:
I'm staying out of this one. You don't have to hit me on the head with a granatgomb

Please I'll die no more I beg you...

steel · Post by **steel** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 10:02 am

Yes !

Smoke have very smoked affect.

Steel

Gavris Narcis · Post by **Gavris Narcis** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 10:58 am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by steel:
[QB]Yes !

Smoke have very smoked affect.

You can't without make jokes ? I asked very seriously. If I fire upon enemy in smoked hex, have I the same percentaje kill than I fire without smoke ? That's all; if you don't like my questions please don't answer.
Thank you very much.

Leo.

Mike Wood · Post by **Mike Wood** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 11:57 am

Hello...

Smoke offers some concealment, but no cover. If the enemy can see you in a smoke hex, he can shoot you. No fire modifier.

Hope this helps...

Michael Wood

Belisarius · Post by **Belisarius** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 1:16 pm

Best explanation so far, Mike.

If the enemy can see you in a smoke hex, you're as likely to suffer casualties as without smoke. Smoke has a very poor ability to stop bullets.

Smoke ain't no goddamn trees, right?

Gavris Narcis · Post by **Gavris Narcis** » Sat Jul 07, 2001 1:28 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike Wood:
[QB]Hello...

Smoke offers some concealment, but no cover. If the enemy can see you in a smoke hex, he can shoot you. No fire modifier.

Hope this helps...

Yes, this really hope. Only I want to hnow was: ''No fire modifier''.
Thank you.

Leo.