Night Moves

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Night Moves

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In our PBEM I moved a UK fleet from Alexandria to a coastal hex that was 5 hexes away so it indicated a night move. It is my understanding that currently enemy air units are still able to interdict even if it is a night move but that is not how it should work. Is my assumption correct?

In our situation the naval units provided ground bombardment support for an attack against a Axis land unit on the coast. The fleet included CVs and the air from the CVs also provided support for the ground attack. Is the support by CV air for the ground attack reduced because it was a night move?

There was one Axis bomber in Tobruk that was in range of the UK fleet but during the Axis turn that hex did not highlight for the Axis bomber so it was unable to attempt an attack on the fleet. Is this because the fleet conducted a night move? The contradiction here is that the air from the CVs were able to ground support the land attack but were immune to a potential air attack from an enemy bomber in their turn.

My friend did do a hot seat recreating the same situation and moved an Italian fleet adjacent to the UK fleet at which time it was intercepted. Both sides took losses including a UK CV. So that brings up another question. Are the target profiles change when a fleet conducts a night move and is attacked? The reason why I ask is that the 3 CV's were escorted by 6 surface units but they still took some damage.
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RE: Night Moves

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I forgot to bring up an additional point about night moves. This means that with current night move range of 6 or even when it was 4 almost every invasion move from the UK to Europe in 1944 would be a night move which makes no sense. Even if the Germans had air units they could not intercept the fleets including the transported units that were invading. I know in the Pacific the Japanese were attempting to reinforce Guadalcanal by night using destroyers but don't know of any significant instance in the European theatre. Maybe night moves should be removed from War Plan Europe.
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ORIGINAL: canuckgamer

In our situation the naval units provided ground bombardment support for an attack against a Axis land unit on the coast. The fleet included CVs and the air from the CVs also provided support for the ground attack. Is the support by CV air for the ground attack reduced because it was a night move?

There was one Axis bomber in Tobruk that was in range of the UK fleet but during the Axis turn that hex did not highlight for the Axis bomber so it was unable to attempt an attack on the fleet. Is this because the fleet conducted a night move? The contradiction here is that the air from the CVs were able to ground support the land attack but were immune to a potential air attack from an enemy bomber in their turn.

The CV provides ground support the next Allies turn or during the same turn it was nightly moved?
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RE: Night Moves

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ORIGINAL: canuckgamer

I forgot to bring up an additional point about night moves. This means that with current night move range of 6 or even when it was 4 almost every invasion move from the UK to Europe in 1944 would be a night move which makes no sense. Even if the Germans had air units they could not intercept the fleets including the transported units that were invading.

Exactly the same happened in reality.
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RE: Night Moves

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ORIGINAL: ncc1701e

ORIGINAL: canuckgamer

In our situation the naval units provided ground bombardment support for an attack against a Axis land unit on the coast. The fleet included CVs and the air from the CVs also provided support for the ground attack. Is the support by CV air for the ground attack reduced because it was a night move?

There was one Axis bomber in Tobruk that was in range of the UK fleet but during the Axis turn that hex did not highlight for the Axis bomber so it was unable to attempt an attack on the fleet. Is this because the fleet conducted a night move? The contradiction here is that the air from the CVs were able to ground support the land attack but were immune to a potential air attack from an enemy bomber in their turn.

The CV provides ground support the next Allies turn or during the same turn it was nightly moved?
The CV air provided ground support the same turn that it conducted the night move.
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