Why no updated Baltic/Nordic scenario?

[marcusm]

We could be in a real conflict soon, yet there seems to be no interest in making a scenario
for this? DLC seems to be very hypothetical scenarios instead of an actual potential scenario.

Are there any third party/user made scenarios that takes the current situation in Ukraine and potential war in North into account?

[BeirutDude]

I just posted one for Play Test on the Baltic States. Not saying it's good [8|], but it's there. [:)]

[BeirutDude]

Ukraine and potential war in North

Yes, I posted two on the Ukraine, one near Mariupol and (yesterday) one for Play Test near Kyiv.

Look here...
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=1281

[marcusm]

Great BeirutDude. I hoped there would be something . (looking at buying at the sale so that is why).

Still surprised nothing official was made. This is a super hot Topic as we speak.

[marcusm]

ORIGINAL: BeirutDude

I just posted one for Play Test on the Baltic States. Not saying it's good [8|], but it's there. [:)]

Btw, does this cover a hypothetical assault on Gotland?

[BeirutDude]

I bumped the scenarios to the top for you.

Community designed scenarios are much more flexible and easy to design than "Official." Remember we're doing it as a hobby, for free and so if the scenario sucks, we just wasted their time. Official scenarios, they charge a little bit for, so they should be much more QC'ed. It is a little dated but the is the "Don of a New Era" Command Live Scenario that is similar to the current situation.

BTW, while I was designing the Baltic, 2022 scenario the OOB changed about five times, so I gave up on trying to keep up. One of the dangers of retime scenario design. That and incomplete information. I made a LOT of suppositions for the Kyiv, Ukraine, 2022 scenario.

[BeirutDude]

BTW, in the Baltic, 2022 Scenario thought about adding Sweden and Gotland Island, but you have to stop somewhere!!!!! [:D] [:)] [8D]

[BeirutDude]

Btw, does this cover a hypothetical assault on Gotland?

See above. This could be a good follow up to Baltics, 2022. I suspect the Russians wouldn't try for Gotland Island until after they secured the Baltic States.

[marcusm]

ORIGINAL: BeirutDude

I bumped the scenarios to the top for you.

Community designed scenarios are much more flexible and easy to design than "Official." Remember we're doing it as a hobby, for free and so if the scenario sucks, we just wasted their time. Official scenarios, they charge a little bit for, so they should be much more QC'ed. It is a little dated but the is the "Don of a New Era" Command Live Scenario that is similar to the current situation.

BTW, while I was designing the Baltic, 2022 scenario the OOB changed about five times, so I gave up on trying to keep up. One of the dangers of retime scenario design. That and incomplete information. I made a LOT of suppositions for the Kyiv, Ukraine, 2022 scenario.

Great thanx. Yes I understand this is a big undertaking for a single person. I would have paid for this DLC. Just strange that they don't jump on the opportunity given the hightened interest in the subject. Could probably have gotten some news items on it .

[BeirutDude]

I would have paid for this DLC. Just strange that they don't jump on the opportunity given the hightened interest in the subject. Could probably have gotten some news items on it .

Well again, I only play here, don't work here, but IMHO a DLC is much more involved than just throwing out a "Community Scenario." If I get it wrong, the Game's reputation isn't on the line...

[BeirutDude]

marcusm, do you have any insights to the current Swedish OOB on and near Gotland. I know it's been beefed up past few weeks.

[hrfepo1]

Looping in to read the comments. This is very interesting.

[BeirutDude]

So did some quick mods to the Baltics, 2022 scenario and had the Russians "Capture" the Baltic States. Eliminated NATO in the Baltics except a few Baltic States ships that could have escaped to Sweden/Gotland. Now have a base Russian side to use for a Gotland scenario. I believe there are Naval Infantry in Kaliningrad, and I would definitely use airmobile if I were Russia...

[marcusm]

ORIGINAL: BeirutDude

marcusm, do you have any insights to the current Swedish OOB on and near Gotland. I know it's been beefed up past few weeks.

No specifics other than the public info about reserves being deployed there. There is always JAS39 on alert and Naval assets but nothing major I know of. Not all is public of course .

[marcusm]

ORIGINAL: BeirutDude

So did some quick mods to the Baltics, 2022 scenario and had the Russians "Capture" the Baltic States. Eliminated NATO in the Baltics except a few Baltic States ships that could have escaped to Sweden/Gotland. Now have a base Russian side to use for a Gotland scenario. I believe there are Naval Infantry in Kaliningrad, and I would definitely use airmobile if I were Russia...

In that scenario they would require Air Superiority and I am not sure they would at this point. Sweden has quite a lot of JAS39 and there are of course Danish and Finnish assets around.

There are 140 active JAS but some are mothballed also. Question is of course how many Pilots are around.

I mean if Estonia is attacked then It is reasonable that quite a bit of those Squadrons would be occupied elsewhere. THey would have to commit quite a large number to counter Sweden.

At any rate a well made scenario would be interesting. I hope the devs look into it.

[BeirutDude]

OH, BTW, while not directly related to ongoing events, there are a series of scenario, not saying they are good scenarios [:D], in the Community Scenario's pack called "Putin's War." They have a Nordic Flare and at least two include Sweden.

[ParachuteProne]

Any chance for any of these payable on both sides ?

[BeirutDude]

Any chance for any of these payable on both sides ?

[BeirutDude]

Any chance for any of these payable on both sides ?

When I started out with scenario design I tried to make them playable from both sides, but I found it to be a lot of work for little gain. For one, you have all kinds of RPs out there for the A/I missions you defeat for the human. So I'm going to say no. Consider once the air battle over the Baltic/Gotland is done and Russia has gained control of the seas around the island, really reducing Gotland is just a matter of mopping up the defenders. Not saying they wouldn't fight gallantly, but I really think it's a Russian victory if they tried it.

Let me look at it, but my initial thoughts are no.

[marcusm]

Since I don't have the game yet. Can you see if RBS15 is modelled in the Game? Also the Silent Swedish Subs.

RBS15 was mothballed for many years but it is still one of the most competent Surface to Surface Missile systems. It could give any landing craft serious trouble.