Am I totally missing something in regard to supply?

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Am I totally missing something in regard to supply?

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"Good generals study tactics. Great generals study logistics."

Situation:
I’m playing the 1942 scenario as the Allies against the computer (although this same situation has come up several times that I have played that same scenario). In the India/Thailand theatre, I have captured Rangoon, the port is ‘up and running’ and I am pressing toward Bangkok and the iron ore fields in Thailand.
All of a sudden, huge swaths of territory with several Indian and British corps and divisions, as well as air squadrons, have no supply source. Using the hot key to check for supply, every hex shows a number indicating that the hex is in supply (or so I understood that to mean the hex was in supply). Rangoon is showing a ‘9’ and nothing else that would show that supply is interrupted. Yet, some of the units are so far from a “supplied hex” that they were not able to even move back into supply over three turns and so were reduced or later eliminated, even the unit and squadron in Rangoon.
I thought that possibly the supply source was Rangoon’s port and somehow that was being interdicted. However, I put a squadron of interceptors there and they never had a battle. I had British ships in a couple of hexes near Rangoon to try to spot any ships or subs that might be having an effect. Finally, I even used 2 commintel that I had from production to try to find anything that could be affecting supply but discovered nothing.
Questions:
• Is that a glitch, or can the map show a ‘supply number’ and still have that hex be out of supply?
• I had always thought that using the ‘supply’ hot key would tell me which hexes were in or out of supply. If that is not the case, how can I do that? And/or how can I tell where the break in the supply line is?
Thanks for the help.
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Post a picture of Burma with supply toggle on.

I just loaded the 1941 which should be about where you are at with the Allies holding Rangoon and the Axis holding Thailand. It comes out correct.

I want to be sure of the situation and the scenario you have. Make sure it isn't an older one.
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Re: Am I totally missing something in regard to supply?

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(sorry for the delay as I've been out of pocket for a while)

Here is that theatre of operations. My confusion is that there are numbered supply hexes, which I thought indicated the hex was in supply, but all of the Indian and British unites in this shot are out of supply as indicated by the status on the counters and the game notes.

BTW, even with a couple of questions as i play, well designed and enjoyable game--good job.

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Re: Am I totally missing something in regard to supply?

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phildove wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 12:15 pm Here is that theatre of operations. My confusion is that there are numbered supply hexes, which I thought indicated the hex was in supply, but all of the Indian and British unites in this shot are out of supply as indicated by the status on the counters and the game notes.
Are you sure they are all out of supply? It is strange, I don't see an indication of it.

Do you have the latest game version i.e. 1.00.06.3 ?
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Re: Am I totally missing something in regard to supply?

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Yes, they are out of supply, unfortunately--if you notice the 2 or 3 movement at this start of the turn--those are units that are not in garrison mode. Also when I click on them they each have less than a 3 in their supply status, indicating they have been out of supply for a turn or more.
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I had this issue once in WPE...one Italian armor was in a hex with supply 4 or 5 and it said out of supply.

Next turn it was in.

No idea what caused it.
I know Al looked at it but could not recreate it.

HOPEFULLY next turn you will be back in supply.
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Sometimes it takes a while for odd bugs. The supply algorithm is incredibly complicated to make it efficient.
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