Wtf is up with the fighter escort and GS in 1.02.29 Beta?

[Jeff_Ahl]

I flew multiple recon missions on turn 2 and not a single escort flew. I have rebased the fighters forward and have not had this problem before. On turn 1 I also did not get any GS when I hit X except for fighter cover.

I have played this game for over a year now, so I now how to set up missions, rebase and always assigned specific Fliegerkorps and/or air groups. The fighter escort has not traveled more than som procent and there is fuel and ammo one the bases.

The version is 1.02.29, have I made any noob mistake or what? Can not find anything.

[loki100]

more info would be useful, I've just run a turn under this patch and got GS where I'd expect it. I tend not to escort recon, so can't comment on that.





Not to say all is right but there were no intentional changes and nothing has struck me as being particularly different.

Possibly daft question - but I still make this mistake - is the GS button on or off?

[Joel Billings]

Do you have a save you can attach, either just before your air phase or in the turn 2 ground phase before you moved any air units. Nothing changed in 1.02.29 in this area. 1.02.27 enforced the loss of drop tanks when they become unavailable as a load out, but I wouldn't expect that to impact turn 2. It should impact German fighters starting on turn 3.

[Jeff_Ahl]

Do you have a save you can attach, either just before your air phase or in the turn 2 ground phase before you moved any air units. Nothing changed in 1.02.29 in this area. 1.02.27 enforced the loss of drop tanks when they become unavailable as a load out, but I wouldn't expect that to impact turn 2. It should impact German fighters starting on turn 3.

It is a server game, is there any way to get hold on that save any way?

[Jeff_Ahl]

more info would be useful, I've just run a turn under this patch and got GS where I'd expect it. I tend not to escort recon, so can't comment on that.





Not to say all is right but there were no intentional changes and nothing has struck me as being particularly different.

Possibly daft question - but I still make this mistake - is the GS button on or off?

I put it on and off depending on the siutation, so short answer is yes. But still no action, other than fighter cover. I tend to delete all Air Directives and remake them, but this time I let the original GS Directive be. The only different thing I done.

[loki100]

really not sure, current game turn, just turned GS back on for this attack and very much what I'd have expected to see:

[Zovs]

If your playing the stock 41 CG I set all recon escort to 0, there is no reason to have fighter escorts for recon missions, it only attracts more Soviet air to tear up your recon assets. If you do want to have escorts I recommend 20 or 25%.

[Joel Billings]

There is an answer for why you didn't get escorts for recon. The changes we made to air doctrines a few versions ago set recon escort percentage to 0 in the air doctrines. This was based on the belief that having escorts for recon flights was not worth the resources expended. If you want escorts, you now need to go to the air doctrines and set the Escort AC Pct to greater than 0 (used to be 100, IIRC, and can be from 0 to 300). I probably should have made that change more clear in the change logs (look in the 1.02.27 notes for the 1941 Campaign changes).

As for the ground support, I just ran the default air directives and then got ground support on my first few attacks. When I loaded your server German turn 2 save, and advanced to the ground phase, the ground support was turned off. Is it possible you turned it off on turn 1 by accident? GS seems to be working ok as long as the button is pressed.

[Jeff_Ahl]

Finally in turn 2 I had GS. Must have messed something up in turn 1 but I can not see what I have done, because all is the same.