What year is the game set in?

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What year is the game set in?

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Obviously you can select a year, in the editor. But what general time period is it? Will people in 2030 still make scenarios?

The eagle is retiring around 2025. Falcon, raptor, some Nimitz class are the same timeframe. F 35 was never fully operational.

Ships are supposed to last 50 years. The Iowa was built in 1945 and retired 1990. So, the early burkes will retire.

Basically by the 2030s all the oobs will be rewritten to remove all the dead ships. Or are you expecting ww3?
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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mustang191 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 12:04 am Obviously you can select a year, in the editor. But what general time period is it? Will people in 2030 still make scenarios?

The eagle is retiring around 2025. Falcon, raptor, some Nimitz class are the same timeframe. F 35 was never fully operational.

Ships are supposed to last 50 years. The Iowa was built in 1945 and retired 1990. So, the early burkes will retire.

Basically by the 2030s all the oobs will be rewritten to remove all the dead ships. Or are you expecting ww3?
Units won’t be removed because you can make historical scenarios…

Units will get added as data becomes available on them. 6th gen fighters, H-20 stealth bomber, B-21, Type 004 CVN etc.
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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mustang191 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 12:04 am Obviously you can select a year, in the editor. But what general time period is it? Will people in 2030 still make scenarios?

The eagle is retiring around 2025. Falcon, raptor, some Nimitz class are the same timeframe. F 35 was never fully operational.

Ships are supposed to last 50 years. The Iowa was built in 1945 and retired 1990. So, the early burkes will retire.

Basically by the 2030s all the oobs will be rewritten to remove all the dead ships. Or are you expecting ww3?
Guys it is the troll from the air effectiveness thread. Ignore him.
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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SunlitZelkova wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 2:02 am
mustang191 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 12:04 am Obviously you can select a year, in the editor. But what general time period is it? Will people in 2030 still make scenarios?

The eagle is retiring around 2025. Falcon, raptor, some Nimitz class are the same timeframe. F 35 was never fully operational.

Ships are supposed to last 50 years. The Iowa was built in 1945 and retired 1990. So, the early burkes will retire.

Basically by the 2030s all the oobs will be rewritten to remove all the dead ships. Or are you expecting ww3?
Units won’t be removed because you can make historical scenarios…

Units will get added as data becomes available on them. 6th gen fighters, H-20 stealth bomber, B-21, Type 004 CVN etc.
What are sixth gen fighters? I don't think a single one has happened.

Given the Chinese collapse I wouldn't bet on the h20.

B-21- maybe.

Type 004 CVN- again China.

I don't see any way to change the oob besides unit removal or non use. Virtually no major weapon platform is plausible to introduce in the next ten years.
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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BobTank63 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 3:10 am
mustang191 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 12:04 am Obviously you can select a year, in the editor. But what general time period is it? Will people in 2030 still make scenarios?

The eagle is retiring around 2025. Falcon, raptor, some Nimitz class are the same timeframe. F 35 was never fully operational.

Ships are supposed to last 50 years. The Iowa was built in 1945 and retired 1990. So, the early burkes will retire.

Basically by the 2030s all the oobs will be rewritten to remove all the dead ships. Or are you expecting ww3?
Guys it is the troll from the air effectiveness thread. Ignore him.
I thought he had a valid (albeit absurd) concern over the game but was going about highlighting it in the wrong manner, but based on his response above this it looks like it is about time to do so (ignore him).
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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SunlitZelkova wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 4:51 am
BobTank63 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 3:10 am
mustang191 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 12:04 am Obviously you can select a year, in the editor. But what general time period is it? Will people in 2030 still make scenarios?

The eagle is retiring around 2025. Falcon, raptor, some Nimitz class are the same timeframe. F 35 was never fully operational.

Ships are supposed to last 50 years. The Iowa was built in 1945 and retired 1990. So, the early burkes will retire.

Basically by the 2030s all the oobs will be rewritten to remove all the dead ships. Or are you expecting ww3?
Guys it is the troll from the air effectiveness thread. Ignore him.
I thought he had a valid (albeit absurd) concern over the game but was going about highlighting it in the wrong manner, but based on his response above this it looks like it is about time to do so (ignore him).
What is so objectionable about my response? That besides China, nobody is developing new ships?
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SunlitZelkova wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 4:51 am
I thought he had a valid (albeit absurd) concern over the game but was going about highlighting it in the wrong manner, but based on his response above this it looks like it is about time to do so (ignore him).
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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Gunner98 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 12:38 pm how do you block on this new forum setup?
Just don't click on my threads?
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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But you are inserting yourself into a number of threads and derailing them.
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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mustang191 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 9:35 am
SunlitZelkova wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 4:51 am
BobTank63 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 3:10 am

Guys it is the troll from the air effectiveness thread. Ignore him.
I thought he had a valid (albeit absurd) concern over the game but was going about highlighting it in the wrong manner, but based on his response above this it looks like it is about time to do so (ignore him).
What is so objectionable about my response? That besides China, nobody is developing new ships?
TIL Ford, Arleigh Burke Flt 3, and Constellation classes don’t exist.
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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Re: What year is the game set in?

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thewood1 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 7:20 pm Screenshot 2022-05-27 151957.jpg
Virginia class is delayed and ships laid down a decade ago were never launched.

0 ford class are made and they never got the catapult to work.

Constellation class is essentially a missile patrol boat with a 3inch gun.
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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mustang191 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 9:50 pm
thewood1 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 7:20 pm Screenshot 2022-05-27 151957.jpg
Virginia class is delayed and ships laid down a decade ago were never launched.

0 ford class are made and they never got the catapult to work.

Constellation class is essentially a missile patrol boat with a 3inch gun.
Missile patrol boat still counts as a ship.

Also the first Ford was commissioned in 2017, so you are just wrong about that.
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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Again...the reading thing.

The FFG-62 has a planned displacement of 7400 tons. Thats over twice as big as the FFG OHP and almost twice as much as the newer PLAN frigate 054. It has a more flexible and heavier armament

Might want to read a few things now and then.
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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thewood1 wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 11:50 pm Again...the reading thing.

The FFG-62 has a planned displacement of 7400 tons. Thats over twice as big as the FFG OHP and almost twice as much as the newer PLAN frigate 054. It has a more flexible and heavier armament

Might want to read a few things now and then.
That doesn't really make it any better. Especially if China is in rapid social collapse.
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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But is a lot newer design than the 54A.

Reading is fundamental. I think you really could take advantage of this program.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_Is_Fundamental
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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thewood1 wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 2:04 am But is a lot newer design than the 54A.

Reading is fundamental. I think you really could take advantage of this program.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_Is_Fundamental
I am not defending any foreign navy, the USN is the only one, and the Burke is the only surface combatant it has left. Basically CMO could be played until 2070 with no changes except removal of ships.
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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I know doing this is just a cry for help. I'll repost from the other thread in case you missed it.

You really need to actually read the stuff we put up. The first step is to admit you have a problem. No one can help until you do that. Living with a secret like that is just not right. It'll be a release to ask for help. I can send you videos instead if you are set on not admitting you can't read.
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Re: What year is the game set in?

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thewood1 wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 2:34 am I know doing this is just a cry for help. I'll repost from the other thread in case you missed it.

You really need to actually read the stuff we put up. The first step is to admit you have a problem. No one can help until you do that. Living with a secret like that is just not right. It'll be a release to ask for help. I can send you videos instead if you are set on not admitting you can't read.
Can you find any surface combatants besides one or two being introduced?
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