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Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Happy with days performance...
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
The graphic below shows my current landing craft and landing ships. I have no APA or AKA or their British equivalents yet. I do have a half dozen civilian xAPc which are basically coastal barges and I guess unique to Dababes.
How do you AFBs use these guys. They start to arrive every couple of days. I know somewhere down the road I will get funnies....ones with guns or rockets and other special attributes.
What escorts do you like to pair with them?
When performing an amphibious invasion do you use the landing craft mission or amphibious?
How else should I think about using these ships (crafts)?
How do you AFBs use these guys. They start to arrive every couple of days. I know somewhere down the road I will get funnies....ones with guns or rockets and other special attributes.
What escorts do you like to pair with them?
When performing an amphibious invasion do you use the landing craft mission or amphibious?
How else should I think about using these ships (crafts)?
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CaptBeefheart
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
LSTs are great for landing vehicles like tanks as well as supplies (and arty if I remember correctly), not so good for infantry or other people-oriented devices. When you are awash with them you can form LST TFs that drop supplies on Day 2 or 3 of an invasion. That comes in handy when you've overstacked the invasion hex and need to keep supplies flowing in.
The LCVPs and LCMs, and whatever else you get when you "create barges," are excellent for moving supplies and small numbers of troops between islands where you don't want to risk APs, LSTs or AKs. In my experience, they rarely, maybe never, attract aircraft attacks. I don't even escort them.
EDIT: I missed your radar question. In my experience, you need either 10 or 30 naval support (or the boat unloading guys) in a hex to unload a radar. Radars will otherwise sit on an LST. Since you have all of those boat squadrons in this mod, you'd want to use them in just about every invasion.
Also, I don't know if there's a difference in Amphip or Landing Craft TFs. It might only have to do with what ships are in it. Someone else may know something useful.
I tend not to treat TFs with LSTs any different than other TFs when it comes to escorts.
Cheers,
CB
The LCVPs and LCMs, and whatever else you get when you "create barges," are excellent for moving supplies and small numbers of troops between islands where you don't want to risk APs, LSTs or AKs. In my experience, they rarely, maybe never, attract aircraft attacks. I don't even escort them.
EDIT: I missed your radar question. In my experience, you need either 10 or 30 naval support (or the boat unloading guys) in a hex to unload a radar. Radars will otherwise sit on an LST. Since you have all of those boat squadrons in this mod, you'd want to use them in just about every invasion.
Also, I don't know if there's a difference in Amphip or Landing Craft TFs. It might only have to do with what ships are in it. Someone else may know something useful.
I tend not to treat TFs with LSTs any different than other TFs when it comes to escorts.
Cheers,
CB
Beer, because barley makes lousy bread.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
CaptBeefheart wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:37 am When you are awash with them you can form LST TFs that drop supplies on Day 2 or 3 of an invasion.
I guess you have total control of the seas by then for the day 2 invasion landing (certainly something that happens)...as a JFB I almost always tried to intercept invasions with something
In my experience, they rarely, maybe never, attract aircraft attacks. I don't even escort them.
There is a way to attack them, F or FB on naval strafing attack. Bombers work as well, but Japan doesn't really have any decent frame styles to do the job. Course you need great DL and it doesn't happen all the time
EDIT: I missed your radar question. In my experience, you need either 10 or 30 naval support (or the boat unloading guys) in a hex to unload a radar. Radars will otherwise sit on an LST. Since you have all of those boat squadrons in this mod, you'd want to use them in just about every invasion.
Boat guys are great!
Also, I don't know if there's a difference in Amphip or Landing Craft TFs. It might only have to do with what ships are in it. Someone else may know something useful.
Well, imho, the TF type plays a large role in actual engagements from naval interceptions and clashes to chances of aerial attack, I am also guessing there is some difference in hitting minefields
Cheers,
CB
Thanks!
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Jan 1, 1943
Allied High Command wants to ring in the New Year decisively....lots going on....reduction of Tulagi, Noumea, and Nauru....invasion of Kusaie....massive Corp Sized battle north of Shwebo in the open terrain of the Magwe plains...
Tulagi first. The decision was made not to send in the fleet carriers, but several CVEs are hanging around the shipping near Ndeni providing additional ASW search...rather Vanua Lava tests the air defenses with a long range port strike while old reliable Marblehead shows up during the night followed by the New Orleans leading a Fletcher squadron....sweet. The engineers at Rennel finish the runway, too.
Something about those beasts on port strike, always super effective despite flying from a size 4 runway with reduced load and at a decent altitude.... 
Allied High Command wants to ring in the New Year decisively....lots going on....reduction of Tulagi, Noumea, and Nauru....invasion of Kusaie....massive Corp Sized battle north of Shwebo in the open terrain of the Magwe plains...
Tulagi first. The decision was made not to send in the fleet carriers, but several CVEs are hanging around the shipping near Ndeni providing additional ASW search...rather Vanua Lava tests the air defenses with a long range port strike while old reliable Marblehead shows up during the night followed by the New Orleans leading a Fletcher squadron....sweet. The engineers at Rennel finish the runway, too.
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Reports back from the Marshall Islands theatre....too easy, surely Japan has troops prepped to counter invade. Kusaie is such a plum!
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Is it bad weather or incomeptence? 
No fighter sweeps in the morning, but the bombers go in, and in and in again....wave after wave after wave.
No fighter sweeps in the morning, but the bombers go in, and in and in again....wave after wave after wave.
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Disaster, you say? Opportunity we say....we knew the altitude most enemy fighters flew at from previous days and that there was not enough radar present...so Allied bombers dropped lower to 8k and struck, and struck and struck. Our Close Escorts fighters put up a wonderful performance...time and again.
Sample strike:
Morning Air attack on 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment, at 60,44 , near Shwebo
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 17
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 15
Kittyhawk IA x 12
B-18A Bolo x 8
B-25C Mitchell x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 4 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 5 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Blenheim IV bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 16 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
202 Ku S-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
25th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
54th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
77th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
203rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Sample strike:
Morning Air attack on 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment, at 60,44 , near Shwebo
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 17
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 15
Kittyhawk IA x 12
B-18A Bolo x 8
B-25C Mitchell x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 4 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 5 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Blenheim IV bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 16 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
202 Ku S-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
25th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
54th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
77th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
203rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Last edited by Lowpe on Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Wave after wave, some escorted, some not....the bombing will continue as our soldiers are attacking...wave after wave....
Morning Air attack on 4th Guards Division, at 60,44 , near Shwebo
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 19
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 29
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 14
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 5
Allied aircraft
A-29A Hudson x 9
Blenheim I x 6
B-18A Bolo x 2
B-17E Fortress x 17
B-17F Fortress x 12
LB-30 Liberator x 3
B-24D Liberator x 34
B-25C Mitchell x 23
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
A-29A Hudson: 1 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
400 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A-29A Hudson bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
6 x Blenheim I bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 108 minutes
202 Ku S-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 33410.
Raid is overhead
25th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 295 minutes
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 24510.
Raid is overhead
54th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 87 minutes
77th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
203rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
Also attacking 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 4th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 41st Field AA Battalion ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 16th Guards Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 4th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 16th Guards Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Morning Air attack on 4th Guards Division, at 60,44 , near Shwebo
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 19
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 29
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 14
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 5
Allied aircraft
A-29A Hudson x 9
Blenheim I x 6
B-18A Bolo x 2
B-17E Fortress x 17
B-17F Fortress x 12
LB-30 Liberator x 3
B-24D Liberator x 34
B-25C Mitchell x 23
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
A-29A Hudson: 1 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
400 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A-29A Hudson bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
6 x Blenheim I bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 108 minutes
202 Ku S-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 33410.
Raid is overhead
25th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 295 minutes
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 24510.
Raid is overhead
54th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 87 minutes
77th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
203rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
Also attacking 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 4th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 41st Field AA Battalion ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 16th Guards Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 4th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 16th Guards Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
The first wave, the pathfinders, shows Japan putting up a lot of fighters!
Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 60,44 , near Shwebo
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 26
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 43
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 15
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 5
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 7
SB-III x 8
Hurricane IIb Trop x 9
Liberator II x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed
SB-III: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Liberator II: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x SB-III bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
3 x SB-III bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
9 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5b Zero (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
18 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 6000.
Raid is overhead
16 planes vectored on to bombers
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
25th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
16 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 6000.
Raid is overhead
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
54th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
8 planes vectored on to bombers
77th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
8 planes vectored on to bombers
203rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
1 planes vectored on to bombers
202 Ku S-1 with A6M5b Zero (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 7000.
Raid is overhead
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 60,44 , near Shwebo
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 26
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 43
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 15
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 5
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 7
SB-III x 8
Hurricane IIb Trop x 9
Liberator II x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed
SB-III: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Liberator II: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x SB-III bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
3 x SB-III bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
9 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5b Zero (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
18 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 6000.
Raid is overhead
16 planes vectored on to bombers
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
25th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
16 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 6000.
Raid is overhead
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
54th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
8 planes vectored on to bombers
77th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
8 planes vectored on to bombers
203rd Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 36000.
Raid is overhead
1 planes vectored on to bombers
202 Ku S-1 with A6M5b Zero (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 7000.
Raid is overhead
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Eventually the Japanese fighter presence runs out of presence and the bombers fly in small numbers, the stragglers, making unopposed strikes.
And by the afternoon, a few fighter squadrons do sweep...the exhausted enemy pilots and planes.
But what of the battle, you say?
And by the afternoon, a few fighter squadrons do sweep...the exhausted enemy pilots and planes.
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Was there ever really any doubt?
Ground combat at 60,44 (near Shwebo)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 59409 troops, 618 guns, 479 vehicles, Assault Value = 2085
Defending force 35602 troops, 426 guns, 158 vehicles, Assault Value = 1112
Allied adjusted assault: 995
Japanese adjusted defense: 320
Allied assault odds: 3 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
5768 casualties reported
Squads: 271 destroyed, 211 disabled
Non Combat: 327 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 119 (63 destroyed, 56 disabled)
Vehicles lost 47 (26 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Units retreated 8
Allied ground losses:
3196 casualties reported
Squads: 86 destroyed, 176 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 38 disabled
Vehicles lost 18 (3 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
99th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
2nd British Division
7th Armoured Brigade
5th Chinese/B Corps
8th New Chinese Corps
5th Chinese/A Corps
5th Chinese/C Corps
51st Base Group
22nd Light AA Regiment
Defending units:
38th Division
21st Division
4th Guards Division
4th Tank Regiment
16th Guards Regiment
21st Fld AA Gun Co
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
41st Field AA Battalion
Ground combat at 60,44 (near Shwebo)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 59409 troops, 618 guns, 479 vehicles, Assault Value = 2085
Defending force 35602 troops, 426 guns, 158 vehicles, Assault Value = 1112
Allied adjusted assault: 995
Japanese adjusted defense: 320
Allied assault odds: 3 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
5768 casualties reported
Squads: 271 destroyed, 211 disabled
Non Combat: 327 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 119 (63 destroyed, 56 disabled)
Vehicles lost 47 (26 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Units retreated 8
Allied ground losses:
3196 casualties reported
Squads: 86 destroyed, 176 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 38 disabled
Vehicles lost 18 (3 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
99th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
2nd British Division
7th Armoured Brigade
5th Chinese/B Corps
8th New Chinese Corps
5th Chinese/A Corps
5th Chinese/C Corps
51st Base Group
22nd Light AA Regiment
Defending units:
38th Division
21st Division
4th Guards Division
4th Tank Regiment
16th Guards Regiment
21st Fld AA Gun Co
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
41st Field AA Battalion
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
The weakened 99th Brigade takes almost all the losses....they broke open the defense, and now our heavy hitters are still in great shape (we did get a 3-1, but would a 2-1 have produced equal losses on the Japanese, certainly would have forced a retreat)
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Happy New Year! 
1.942 to 1 VP ratio in favor of Japan. I think Japan got to 2.2 at one point...
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CaptBeefheart
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
On the Pacific side, you are playing a great small game, meaning hitting him where he isn't with small forces. Eventually you may have to do some brute force invasions once you have air and naval superiority.
I generally play against the AI in Ironman 3 or 4, so the big IJ bases tend to be well garrisoned (and the AI doesn't go after barges--good point). The quickest way to take those kind of bases, like Okinawa, Peleliu, Iwo Jima, Marianas in '44, etc. is to come in overstacked. The Allies have all kinds of lift capacity from '44 to handle the extra supplies required for overstacked invasions.
Regarding radars, I've been in a situation where when I couldn't get the set to unload, I'd send the ship carrying it into harm's way so the base unit would then be able to draw one from supplies once the ship was sunk.
Cheers,
CB
I generally play against the AI in Ironman 3 or 4, so the big IJ bases tend to be well garrisoned (and the AI doesn't go after barges--good point). The quickest way to take those kind of bases, like Okinawa, Peleliu, Iwo Jima, Marianas in '44, etc. is to come in overstacked. The Allies have all kinds of lift capacity from '44 to handle the extra supplies required for overstacked invasions.
Regarding radars, I've been in a situation where when I couldn't get the set to unload, I'd send the ship carrying it into harm's way so the base unit would then be able to draw one from supplies once the ship was sunk.
Cheers,
CB
Beer, because barley makes lousy bread.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
The Pacific so far is low hanging fruit...except for maybe the invasion at Marcus/Tabby where the fleet carriers had to be somewhat active and got punished by Iboats. But once bases interlock a bit, expansion easier....I need to see if I can keep Kusaie....that is normally an invasion that needs fleet carriers.
Japan has mentioned several times that they have an unreasonable fear of my submarines...
Japan has mentioned several times that they have an unreasonable fear of my submarines...
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anarchyintheuk
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
If he doesn't like your subs now, he'll really hate it when they start using the exploding kind of torpedoes.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Jan 2, 1942
Idaho group arrives for the reduction of Tulagi....Marblehead and Fletchers were screening a surging IJN desron that veered off...they will bombard today. Carpenter bombardment group enroute. There are lots of AKEs and AEs and ADs in theater...that even port 0 provides no problems in rearming the warships.
Meanwhile troops keep flooding forward with 50 or so PT boats everywhere, and the very useful AGPs present too!
Idaho group arrives for the reduction of Tulagi....Marblehead and Fletchers were screening a surging IJN desron that veered off...they will bombard today. Carpenter bombardment group enroute. There are lots of AKEs and AEs and ADs in theater...that even port 0 provides no problems in rearming the warships.
Meanwhile troops keep flooding forward with 50 or so PT boats everywhere, and the very useful AGPs present too!
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recon flights are informing Allied High Command that Japan will not contest the Marshalls that much. Pity.
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
I thought there was some chance that Japan would shock across the river, but they did bomb the defenders two days ago and probably got an eyefull...Holy Emperor there are dug in Valentines there! 
And East Africans with Piats!! 
Are there 3 or 4 tank divisions running around? If 4, maybe they are flanking with a fourth...if three they are all accounted for.
And East Africans with Piats!! Are there 3 or 4 tank divisions running around? If 4, maybe they are flanking with a fourth...if three they are all accounted for.
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