RtL - Checkmate in one move?

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RtL - Checkmate in one move?

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My opponent motorized at least two German Infantry Divisions (to take the Baltic ports and to storm Riga), but resigned upon start of turn 2.
8th & 27th Army were trapped in the Courland pocket. 11th Army was managing the center breakout effort.
Northwestern Front had taken up position in Pskov while Leningrad Front was in Novgorod.

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Is this a start worth quitting over? The Germans are not isolated, as they get supplies from AGC.
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Re: RtL - Checkmate in one move?

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Seminole wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:57 pm

Is this a start worth quitting over? The Germans are not isolated, as they get supplies from AGC.
Did you contact your opponent and ask them? I would do that first. If you did what was the answer if I may ask, the forum wants to know now that you have brought this before them. In a nutshell you could have a person new to the game and not know that supply comes from AGC. I would personally extend a helping hand. All users have to register on Slitherine Website and you can PM/email that person on that site.
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HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:25 pm
Did you contact your opponent and ask them? I would do that first. If you did what was the answer if I may ask, the forum wants to know now that you have brought this before them. In a nutshell you could have a person new to the game and not know that supply comes from AGC. I would personally extend a helping hand. All users have to register on Slitherine Website and you can PM/email that person on that site.
If they want to participate in this thread they can, I'm not trying to 'out' anyone.

I'm just wondering how you would receive this turn.
I didn't think it was game ending.
Would you throw in the towel?
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Re: RtL - Checkmate in one move?

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Seminole wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:36 pm
HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:25 pm
Did you contact your opponent and ask them? I would do that first. If you did what was the answer if I may ask, the forum wants to know now that you have brought this before them. In a nutshell you could have a person new to the game and not know that supply comes from AGC. I would personally extend a helping hand. All users have to register on Slitherine Website and you can PM/email that person on that site.
If they want to participate in this thread they can, I'm not trying to 'out' anyone.

I'm just wondering how you would receive this turn.
I didn't think it was game ending.
Would you throw in the towel?
Understood, and I was not trying to imply that.

I have yet to play that scenario. Matter of fact I have played no scenario besides StB with my sole concentration being the GC. I have to pass an answer to someone that plays that scenario extensively since my answer would be based on the GC game and the OOB would be similar but different being borrowing of forces from center.
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Re: RtL - Checkmate in one move?

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Part of the appeal of the scenario to me is the historical distribution of forces prevents the sandbox min-maxing you see in the campaigns.

I’ve played the scenario a few times from both sides.

The other appeal to me is a short window and focus, so I had accepted this game to have during my downtime between the StB campaign as my ‘41 GC appears to be petering to the normal end of Axis initiative, end of the game.
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Re: RtL - Checkmate in one move?

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The situation is certainly painful but not cadastrophic. It would be desirable to continue. The fact is that as soon as I opened the move, I realized that I did not want to play the road to Leningrad for the German again. And given the error in the opening. 1) forgot about sea interception in Courland. 2) As a result, one of the temporarily motorized divisions was not where it should have been. I also tried to arrange motorboats in a different way. Nevertheless, it seems that the river from Riga should be taken as a whole if possible. In general, as it sometimes happens, something just goes wrong. Therefore, figuratively speaking, I decided to get a TT and not torture myself and you with a position in the style of the First World War from about the 3rd move. It seems to me that on the road to Leningrad, the German is in a very disadvantaged position due to the movements of the 13-14th move. Therefore, when playing this scenario on a German, it is very important not to make mistakes. My opinion is based on 3 games in this scenario with 3 different people. 2 times I was in German. The result was a draw and a small victory for the USSR. Even earlier I played on the USSR and everything turned out very well.
Although it may depend on the opponent. I can post screenshots.
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Re: RtL - Checkmate in one move?

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I’ve never bothered with naval interdiction in this scenario as either side. Aircraft losses for the Russians are so atrocious it penalizes you in this scenario scoring in a way you don’t have to consider in the campaign.


The key for the German player is to keep up pace and keep isolating and removing Russian counters from the map so you can maintain operational freedom. The map naturally funnels toward your objective, so you can’t just push the Russians back onto it.
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