Bish Bash Boche - A 41 GC JB (A) & Veterin (S)

[jasonbroomer]

T29 Axis Response to Soviet T28

The situation is ghastly and I do what I can to restore the player morale. I try some local counterattacks, at least I don't suffer harsh winter penalties, but attacking in a blizzard is a lottery. Sometimes they work

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sometimes they go phut

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Supply seems to be key in the 41/42 winter. I have various strategic stockpiles scattered around. It's taken till Christmas but keeping Minsk on priory 4 since capturing it on turn 1, it has finally filled without the need to resorting to a super depot.

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This 60,000 tons cache will be very useful to bleed to the front lines when supply is required.

A further useful stratagem to help supply a little is the Nikolaev run

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There is a rail bottleneck between Odessa and Nikolaev. It's a short run by air and a perfect rout for those otherwise useless Go 266 (or whatever they are) which have a range of only 100 miles or so. Both airports are level 3, thanks to some preplanning, which limits (supposedly) operational losses on the planes. Running this route every turn can bring a short 1000 tons of supply across. It will cost a dozen (or two planes ) each turn but what else will you do with them. But rarely do you lose a pilot and it gains some valuable experience for the pilots before you hand them some Me263 (?) transport beasts. These behemoths of the sky are too valuable to employ during inclement weather and reserved for clear days with expert pilots or in an emergency. Stabs (4 plane in group leaders always have the best pilots and therefore the first to recieve these new planes. It also makes basing them easier as the the 6 engine beasts will overwhelm anything but a level 3 airport if you assign them to a full flight of 40 planes)

[Veterin]

T30 - Soviet Perspective

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Only 1 attack made on the Leningrad front this turn. I need to rebuild CPP to make any further progress in this area as all defensive values are large, even with the heavy snow penalty. I am tempted to try and bypass the 85CV/lvl 3 fort In the north but to do so, I have to move across light forest terrain so my units can easily be counter attacked. Will make a decision on this next turn.

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This screenshot is at the start of my turn. Moving that rifle division between the gap across swamp hexes last turn worked out as JB has redeployed his defence to stop further movement creating a few weak points in the line. There are now a number of single digit CV hexes for me to attack so I decide to move across the rest of my blue and green armies to the frontlines. The green armies are 75 CPP but I don’t want to wait another turn as it will take at least 2 turns to get them to the frontline in this poor terrain. These armies are operating in a bit of a supply desert so I am burning trucks here but I think it will be worth it.

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This is at the end of my turn. Unfortunately, I am unable to move into the hex on the furthest west attack as my units are all in ZOC so they have very few MP after a deliberate attack.

[Veterin]

T30 - Soviet Perspective Cont...

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Not many attacks around Smolensk this turn. JB has taken back the key swamp hex which I thought I had enough strength to hold but he attacked Soviet style (overwhelming numbers) and he was able to push me out of the hexes and then moved in 3 strong infantry divisions into the hex (+70 def CV even with lvl 8 snow!). I decide to try and bypass the swamp hexes and attack further south where there is some clear terrain to approach Smolensk from the south. The pressure along this new area in addition to the advance of the northern Smolensk units (brown/dark grey) should make JB weaken his strong points to confront the new threats. North of Smolensk in particular is a risk for Axis as there is only light forest/clear hexes and its behind held by single divisions/regiments.

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West of Bryansk I make two attacks on low defence divisions. I only have 1 army in the area but It doesn’t look like Axis forces are strong either. The 24th panzer division is in the area which was to be one of my primary targets this turn but it attacked me last turn and it only had 20 AFVs that participated so it’s a relatively weak unit and it will be a tough target to hit as it’s stacked with an infantry division in defensible terrain.

[Veterin]

T30 - Soviet Perspective Cont...

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I identify what looks like a 2-3 hex gap in the Axis defensive line so I commit most of the 3rd army (red) to the attack. I know attacking with tank/mechanised armies in the harsh winter should only be a last resort but I really needed this attack to be successful. In addition to the 152 AFV losses I sustained, about half the remaining division is full of damaged units but these will convert to tank brigades on turn 32 anyway.

I moved the infantry division north west of the attack I was about to make so I could control which hex the defender retreated too as I didn’t want them moving west and blocking my advance. I was hoping to get my second mechanised division further through the breakthrough but at least I have one mechanised division that broke the line and is in favourable defensive terrain for any counter attack. JB will likely have to redirect forces from further south to plug this new hole in the frontline.

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This is what the beginning of my turn looked like for AGS. As expected, JB punished me heavily for my overextended weakened rifle divisions near Kremenchug inflicting high losses on several of my armies before falling back in some areas. Will need to see how this turn plays out but I’ll likely advance a little slower and allow 1-2 turns for those damaged units to refit and rebuild strength. Despite having strong offensive capability in the area, it’s been difficult engaging the Axis units as they continue to fall back and moving over heavy snow without administrative movement really drains MPs.

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This is the same area near the end of my turn. Only a handful of attacks made across the front with most of my MPs spent moving closer to the frontline. You will note I have a lot of units behind the frontline building up CPP this turn so if the weather remains favourable over the next 1-2 turns, I can put them to good use. North of the east/west double rails there is a wall of strong Axis forces which I won’t be able to break (even with the current heavy snow). Those triple stacked divisions north east of D-town will likely need to be redistributed either west or south as I am making a lot of progress in those areas. It’s unlikely I can achieve this but if I can take D-town and/or Zaporozhye before the end of winter that will provide me with a good amount of bonus VP which I could use to lower the Axis 1942 HWM.

[Veterin]

T30 - Soviet Perspective Cont...

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I fall back to my fortifications following my failed attack last turn. These units will need some time to refit and replenish before considering anymore operations in the area. Last turn I added 6 rifle brigades to my HQ and moved it back across to the Crimean Peninsula this turn and attached them to rifle divisions to boost their power. There is still opportunity to attack in Crimea even without heavy snow as before falling back, I scouted the Axis hexes and they are down to 2 divisions per hex (was 3 before my attack). It’s likely 2 divisions have been pulled back to defend the northern banks of the Sea of Azov as my units are moving through that terrain from Mariupol quickly as there are very few Axis forces in the area.

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Lastly, another large transfer of Rifle brigades on map. I’ll attach them to STAVKA this turn and distribute them directly to rifle divisions next turn. Rifle/Airborn/Naval divisions are all awesome ways of increasing the power of your on-map units. Before Corps sized units are widely available, this is the most effective way of concentrating your firepower.

[Veterin]

This 60,000 tons cache will be very useful to bleed to the front lines when supply is required.

You really did an amazing job of managing supply throughout winter. Not once did i see any shortage in supply (based on soft markers and my recon). Whenever i play Axis i'm always short supplies!

[Seminole]

A further useful stratagem to help supply a little is the Nikolaev run
There is a rail bottleneck between Odessa and Nikolaev. It's a short run by air and a perfect rout for those otherwise useless Go 266 (or whatever they are) which have a range of only 100 miles or so. Both airports are level 3, thanks to some preplanning, which limits (supposedly) operational losses on the planes. Running this route every turn can bring a short 1000 tons of supply across. It will cost a dozen (or two planes ) each turn but what else will you do with them.

In WitW they were useful troop ferries for the hop from Sardinia to Corsica, or Corsica to Italy.

Maybe a similar role in helping evacuate Kerch strait or Crimea at some point? Haven’t really looked at basing for it.

[jasonbroomer]

A further useful stratagem to help supply a little is the Nikolaev run
There is a rail bottleneck between Odessa and Nikolaev. It's a short run by air and a perfect rout for those otherwise useless Go 266 (or whatever they are) which have a range of only 100 miles or so. Both airports are level 3, thanks to some preplanning, which limits (supposedly) operational losses on the planes. Running this route every turn can bring a short 1000 tons of supply across. It will cost a dozen (or two planes ) each turn but what else will you do with them.

In WitW they were useful troop ferries for the hop from Sardinia to Corsica, or Corsica to Italy.

Maybe a similar role in helping evacuate Kerch strait or Crimea at some point? Haven’t really looked at basing for it.

Evacuate the Crimea It's a crime to even suggest that!

[jasonbroomer]

This 60,000 tons cache will be very useful to bleed to the front lines when supply is required.

You really did an amazing job of managing supply throughout winter. Not once did i see any shortage in supply (based on soft markers and my recon). Whenever i play Axis i'm always short supplies!

I tend to prepare well for winter. One thing I do is use my FBDs very carefully. It is tempting to use them linearly following the line of attack. I do this to a degree but as soon as I can I send one of them to the rear areas to begin broadening out the rail routes from the border - 3 main line railroads isn't enough for winter. I believe that you need a good system of roots to feed the front. A RAD unit attached to a leading HQ will keep the network plodding along eastwards.

There are costs associated with this approach however, in autumn I was really struggling with supplies around D'town. Eventually I conceded and went the super depot option. However each turn of super depots costs you 70 or 80 miles of rail repair (in good conditions). I am easier about using super depots in bad weather as the opportunity cost is much lower as you can only repair 30 or 40 miles.

Repairing the rail system is a bit like that game of drawing a picture without taking the pen off the paper. It requires a lot of thought how best to do it.

[jasonbroomer]

T31 Axis

The first few weeks of winter, when blizzards blow, are gruesome for the Axis. It is very difficult to know what to do as your defensive CV melts away and your lines get pounded. After 3 or 4 weeks the pressure begins to recede as the Soviets expend their CPP and you begin to feel the effects of tighter supply lines in the areas where you have retreated and in turn, the Soviets become extended.

In this game, I have been shifted out of many of my level 2 and 3 forts. The manual suggests that harsh winter attrition (in deep snow 7-9) produces greater logistical related losses. I am sure that this is true, however, the impact is not markedly different (this part of the game was played before the latest beta patch upping attritional losses).

Following a brutal few turns, I am regaining my composure and feeling that not all is lost. In the north I sense that my front line is beginning to stabilise.

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I am not forcing myself to recapture terrain that I was previously ejected from. This is like repeatedly burning yourself on a hot stove and having to steel yourself and put your hand back. Perhaps those divisions won't be hit as hard next time...

A little further south to the west of the Kalinin Forests, holes are apearing in my line and we are being forced to the edge of the swamp line. We have some concerns here but the situation don't appear critcal.

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We even muster the strength for a counterattack, a useful device to run down CPP of the Soviets and in this instance make a hole in a Soviet division. Supply lines are an issue for the Soviets here, so causing causalities makes us a double bonus, as refitting units takes supply away from the assault.

[jasonbroomer]

T31 Axis AGC

The centre too is stabilising. I am fairly confident that the Soviets have a front on assault in the region SE of Smolensk. Vatutin has been active here.

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As Vet points out, I am weak in the north of Smolensk. I have been evicted from the heavy woods here but the area is easily reinforceable from the city area (I have 2 SS motorised divisions in this critical sector) and I am extremely conscious that it is difficult for the Soviets to supply and is a truck graveyard for the Russians. That said, I am a little surprised that Vet hasn't/didn't launch an attack in the area marked. I am sure that I would have defeated it, but it would have materially weakened my forces defending to the main assaults on my SE flank.

Moving south along the front, we continue to fall back towards a good defensive line based around swamp areas. I don't mind giving up land here as it will be easily reclaimed. The main loss will be the rail roads and the buggerance of having to repair them again.

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AGS continues to cede ground but the pace is slowing as we approach D'town. The boys put in a spirited counterattack to remind the Ruskies that we still have teeth.

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Note the lvl 2 forts in the light woods north of D'town. This is where I intend to anchor my defence of the city.

[Veterin]

T31 - Soviet Perspective

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Not an ideal start to opening a turn but a loss of VP in both the Northern and Far East TB. I plan to get all my ground TBs to 100% over the next few turns (air has been above 120% for a while).

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Looking at the VP score so far this game, I have lost 7 points to shortages in the TB compared to Axis who have a net gain of 4 points from their TB. That 11-point difference may not sound like a lot but it does make a big difference for the high water mark score (HWM)

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At the end of winter, I’ll do a larger deep-dive on the state of the game. Interestingly there was a large decrease in Axis manpower this turn. I’m not sure if it’s the scripted creation of new units being filled or just weakened units in the TB/reserve refitting but Axis units in the theatre boxes continue to strengthen so 1942 will be interesting!

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I start of making my attacks from north to south as I usually do. The 254th Infantry Division has been a thorn in my side for a number of turns as it was a strong point stopping further advance towards Leningrad. It was a strong unit in a swamp hex with a lvl 3 fort and had close to 80 defensive CV (even with the heavy snow penalties!). I had to use a lot of units for the attack but it was important I made the attack as now there are no more swamp/heavy wood hexes left in the area.

[Veterin]

T31 - Soviet Perspective Cont...

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Along the North West front, I only make a handful of attacks in the area. The soft factor I have showing in pretty much all my screenshots is always of CPP and as you can see, the forces in this area are spent. Up near Staraya Russia I have done an “encirclement” of a well defended Infantry division but I am in no position to try and close it on open terrain so I’ll settle for no supply to the unit this turn.

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I’m not making much progress around Smolensk with JB doing a really good job of defending. He is using the terrain well and he knows which hexes I need to advance and is denying me the opportunity. I’ve massed a lot of units north of Smolensk but it is a slog hex by hex working through the terrain. East of Smolensk, I’ve got my 2 guard corps resting this turn. As the screenshot above shows, most of my units in this area are also drained of CPP.

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Any failed attack hurts but especially when you commit a cavalry corps and guard rifle division to the attack. 4.3k troops lost and 48 guns lost with not much to show for it.

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This screenshot is what the south looked like at the start of my turn. I continue to be blessed by the weather gods with blizzard conditions covering most of the map. Last turn I was relatively passive on this front as I build up strength and CPP for further advances this turn. Axis forces have been repositioned to plug the potential gap that was occurring on the western most flank near Cherkassy.

[Veterin]

T31 - Soviet Perspective Cont...

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The fighting has been intense here for a number of turns and I’ve covered a lot of ground so I set up a super deposit at Poltava last turn. Here I was thinking that would pull through enough supply to build up a sizable reserve but of the 18k received 16.5k went out immediately to divisions. Depending on how far I advance I might keep the NPKS here another turn to try and build up some stored supply. I know I shouldn’t complain as that one soviet deposit is probably receiving more freight than the entire Axis on-map forces with all these blizzards….

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Before making any more attacks, I took some time to review my artillery SUs on map. Fighting has been intense and some specific soviet artillery production is lacking so I moved all non-guard artillery with 0-50% TOE back to STAVKA this turn. Next turn I will likely disband a few to ensure that the ones I do have are able to fill their TOE.

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When on the offensive, JB has done an awesome job of heading my units out of my line and into pockets to be isolated/destroyed the following turn. The 3/60th motorised regiment has been down south for a number of turns terrorising my poor horses who just want to explore the Ukrainian steppes. I was able to do a little herding of my own on the weakened regiment which will hopefully hold next turn. Even if it doesn’t, that will force more units to commit south weakening the D-town area which is heavily concentrated with Axis forces.

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These are where my units are positioned near the end of the turn. When compared to my opening (screenshot 8) I have moved a lot of my units westward as there are simply too many axis forces all triple stacked that I won’t be able to dislodge them, even with blizzard conditions. There are 2 rules in the manual that I think it’s important every Soviet player knows and understands its applications.

[Veterin]

T31 - Soviet Perspective Cont...

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When attacking a hex that has 2-3 Axis divisions on it, you obviously need to send a lot of firepower to win the battle. As any attacking force that exceeds “28 value”, a greater percentage of units in the attack do not actually participate in the battle. They count towards the ending CV calculation but will not fire during combat. As a division is 9 value and a corps is 15 value, this penalty kicks in even if there are only 4 divisions used on offence. Therefore, if you are going to attack multiple axis divisions in one hex, bring a lot more firepower than usual as the CV calculation is linear and doesn’t take into account that a greater portion of your army will not participate in combat. The other reason to avoid attacking stacked units is….

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This is the second reason to avoid attacking 2-3 Axis divisions in a single hex. Not only do fewer of your divisions participate in the attack but Axis artillery will do more damage the greater number of units you have in the battle too.

I’ve learnt these 2 rules the hard way but understanding them goes a long way in ensuring that your attacks are successful and that you don’t take needlessly large losses.

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Lastly, I decide to build 58 Ski Brigades as they cost zero AP and all ground elements are “need” based production. At 1,356 manpower each this will take up ~78k of manpower. I probably won’t get much use out of them for the current winter season but even as a brigade attachment throughout the non-snow months they will make my rifle divisions stronger all the same. I’ve taken them off refit as I’m not in a rush to fill them and I may even leave them in the reserve TB to train up first (once they’re eventually filled).

[jasonbroomer]

T32 Axis

I messed up my screenshot of the VPs but as Vet mentioned, I have had a recent flurry of them. I haven't had much luck so far this game with most TBs over committed to but at last some rewards are coming my way, which helps to rebuild morale.

Throughout winter my first action each turn is to identify infantry IDs (Germans obviously, I don't give a stuff about the allies ) which have a ToE below 75%. There is a bug(?) in the system so that infantry AT guns (AT rifles) rarely get filled , which distorts the headline ToE lower. This is an irritant so you have to check the rifle squad situation individually to gauge how critical the situation is.

I worry if an ID ToE is in the 60s and invariably these units will be pulled off the front to a depot. There is some debate about how far you should base your depots front the front line, within 3 hexes eliminates truck usage but doubles the supply cost as horses need feeding. I advocate keeping units within 3 hexes, which gives additional makes moving units in need of refit easier, even in a blizzard, especially in a game where I have hammered my truck situation.

I have been using every trick in the book to manage supply: adjusting supply priority of the unit, pulsing supply for rearward depots etc. Although I have suffered a constant blizzard at the front over the last 8 turns, the fronts have not crossed deep behind my lines, thus my supply trains have not suffered additional MP maluses. This perhaps has been critical in keeping my supply system working satisfactorily.

At long last, the weather is forecast to finally improve,however, deep snow will remain everywhere at the front

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In the north, an infantry divisions is cut off, but I'll be damned if I will give up a level 3 fort.

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Fortunately I have a couple of IDs coming out of refit in the locality, so they can re-establish communications with the isolated division.

[jasonbroomer]

Axis T32 South

Fun with Roms, I dressed up an innocent looking Romanian ID, and then dumping a bloody great FRSS Brigade within it along with some other choice SUs. An SS brigade in drag if you like, hoping to tempt the Soviets into a hasty attack

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Sadly, the Soviets managed to hit it in size so it lost the battle but amazingly the unit didn't rout Casualties were quite high although the SS seem to have lost only 3 men.

Is there anyway to get a breakdown of losses across different nationalities?

Sadly, the 3/60 MI regiment looks well and truly stuffed after being herded about. Even worse is that it contains a valuable SU motorised regiment. Other than the 2/20 regiment (sacrificed to cut the Leningrad rail line) I've never lost a unit in this game, I feel very saddened to lose one. It takes forever to rebuild and train German units to a decent standard (unlike the Soviets which is why thy die so quickly), - the 2/20 is still in training.

Rummaging around my roster thankfully I find a unit that somehow has got 15 or 16 MPs. I slam in the other RFSS (thankfully the big one, the 1st, I always hold one decent SU at OKH for eventualities such as this) and put in a hasty with fingers crossed...

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Phew, what a relief. The Netherlands Motorised regiment SU is immediately sent off to OKH. We can't get the 3/60 Motorised far, I dare say it will be spanked next turn but it will survive

[Veterin]

T32 - Soviet Perspective

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There was a large drop in Soviet on map AFVs this turn but that’s due to the conversions of tank divisions to tank brigades which happens on turn 32. As tank brigade can’t be on-map units, they are all automatically moved to the Army HQs. I have moved all my tank brigades to the reserves.

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No attacks in the Leningrad front area as I simply don’t have the offensive power. Further south along the Northwest front, I only make 2 minor attacks as I am also a spent force as far as offensive power goes. My 55th army (orange) is not getting much supply with the distance to the depo and all those swamp hexes so I might need to pull them back next turn.

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Only 2 attacks around Smolensk too. This attack was held to due the reserve activation of Totenkopf. I think JB has just about every SU in the game directly attached to his divisions. His 98th Infantry Division has the “500th zbV Penal Bicycle recon Battalion” whatever that is!

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Screenshot of AGS before my ground movement. Last turn most of the units east of D-town were triple stacked so it looks like some Axis forces have fallen back likely to reinforce the western flank as I was able to make some advances their last turn. My super deposit in Poltava received a further 19k freight however 15k immediately went out. Looks like I’ll need to keep the NKPS here for at least 1 more turn.

[Veterin]

T32 - Soviet Perspective Cont...

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For this sector I start my moves in the south. JB was able to free his motorised regiment (and in turn isolate 2 of my divisions) with reinforcements from the 72nd infantry division. The RFSS motorised brigade is attached which is a very strong unit. I attacked the weakened motorised regiment and then start to pull some of the units back from the area. Like a lot of the other fronts on the map, I’ve run out of attacking power to continue.

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I make some attacks on the southern flank of the Axis defences. Whilst “winning” this battle, i lose a lot of units and the LW is flying again now that the skies are clear. To quote Pyrrhus, “if we are victorious in one more battle, we shall be utterly ruined”.

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This is what the south looks like near the end of my turn. Not many opportunities for attacks given all the stacked units but when I do attack, I try and heavily outnumber the defenders.

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Despite not making many attacks, relatively heavy losses from both sides. This isn’t even the full turn losses, just the Soviet Action Phase.

[jasonbroomer]

T33 Axis

The Soviet manpower build up is a worry. He has lots of nice toys he can spend that manpower on unless I can force him to use it bolstering his line.

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So we look to see where we can attack, hopefully the Soviets will be becoming a little raggardly following their recent advances. Model seems a good person to start the attack.

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Bish, that's 20k dealt with.

Now where else can be turn to. The Soviets seem to be making their way westwards threatening D'town's doubleline railway. We can't have that.

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Bosh, a further 17k accounted for