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can't get past weather

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This file is a netplay file that has been converted to a head to head. In either case we can't get past the weather phase. I fear the file is corrupt.
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Possibly the same issue? Check out the following bug report I posted in January for solitary (mode) game. Game Stopping Weather Roll. 4.4.1 (Debug)
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If it's the same bug, then it is fatal...

However, perhaps you could go back a step and reroll the weather (using the die roller) and arrive at a mutually acceptable result that would allow you to continue (if the new weather roll rectifies the supply bug).
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thanks for the feedback. Yes, it seems fatal. The German player was however quite happy to restart... (I did not think he was doing badly!)
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CanInf wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:51 pm thanks for the feedback. Yes, it seems fatal. The German player was however quite happy to restart... (I did not think he was doing badly!)
If you both remember the roll you can load the phase and input it. No need to restart anything.
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Just had this happen to me last night.

Only fix was to use the die roller to choose a weather roll that would go through. I think the program has a problem when weather switches in the extremes. I had all clear weather in Sept/Oct and proceeded to roll a 10 to get terrible weather world wide. In order to continue I progressively changed the roll... 10>9>8. I think it finally allowed the game to continue with 8.

This is not just a net play issue.
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Did you close the main menu too, before reloading the game? We always do, because MWIF sometimes doesn't close the game totally. Closing the main menu might help here.

And there's another thing which might help. Sometimes there's a "hidden" MWIF game still active, even when you've closed the game. Check the windows task manager for this, before you restart.

Since we are doing that, we never have problems at a restart of a game.

Problems with the weather die roll I haven't seen in a long time. But it sometimes takes a while (especially when the weather changes a lot on the globe) for the game to process the die roll correctly.
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yes, I always completely shut the game down and check programs running to make sure there not a version in the background
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Finally it happened to us too, using 4.4.1.

We tried exiting completely and killing any active process. We loaded several times this way the Weather, Initiative and Lending Stage phases and could not solve it.

We also sent to each other the lending phase file in case there was a desinchronization, but to no use.

I believe there is no hidden screen because the problem is not that there is no green button to press, but that the game is processing the Weather for as much as you want, 5, 10 minutes or more. The typical hourglass, just here is a round pointer icon.
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However, when I review the game, the Weather is loaded fast as you can see in one of the captures. That makes me think it is a problem of the Netplay proper .

I hope some of you can give us a hint because we are stuck here.
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CanInf wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:39 pm This file is a netplay file that has been converted to a head to head. In either case we can't get past the weather phase. I fear the file is corrupt.
My best guess is that the supply calculation is going into an infinite loop. That would explain why different weather rolls succeed and others fail.

I fixed something along those lines recently - I removed trying to reuse old (successful) supply paths for tracing supply from potential tertiary supply sources to secondary supply sources. Reusing old paths after the weather changed (or hex control, or sea area links) was generating the infinite loop. Since finding a 4 hex basic path from a potential tertiary supply source to a secondary supply source show takes virtually zero time, trying to reuse old paths was silly anyway. Now reusing potential secondary supply sources to primary supply sources should always be tried since they are rail paths and can be somewhat complex.

I'll go back and see when I made that correction and try to get a hot patch out next week.
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much appreciated!
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Thanks.
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hmmm I seem to have bumped into this one in another game. If the weather is a 1, the game goes on. If it is 7 or greater, we can;t get past.
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I will try 3.2
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OK I am not at all sure this will hold, but I opened the game file in 3.2, got past the weather, then successfully opened the game file in 4.xx
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nope it failed
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bumped into this again... med mud seems to cause grief
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