Decoupling RAM from standard missile allocation

[MarkJoergensen]

Is there a way to decouple RAM from the standard missile allocation system? I ran a test with a Brandenburg class vs 4 Sizzlers, and the results are pretty weird.

If the WRA is allowing its ESSM to fire at full range, the Brandenburg sinks 27 times out of 100. This is with RAM shooting twice pr. target.

If the WRA disallows use of ESSM, and instead it relies solely on RAM, the Brandenburg only sinks 9 times out of 100. Again, this is with the RAM shooting twice pr. target.

Is there a way of letting the RAM shoot in addition to the ESSM? It's a CIWS and shouldnt follow standard WRA for missile weapons.

[thewood1]

I think something like this was requested in the open forum before, but not exactly as you want. The idea was to create SAM zones. Instead of just a max range, also have min range for SAMs. Maybe even have angles set up for the zones. But it would also solve your problem as well. Once the enemy unit got within 3 nm of the target, ESSMs would stop firing and the RAM SAM zone would come into play. You could still overlap them. I don't know if it ever got formally requested.

[Dimitris]

Can we see a pre-engagement save?

[Dimitris]

Quick idea: Boost the RAM's "self-defence range" value out to its maximum range?

This _should_ cause it to shoot for its life regardless of what the ESSM screen is doing.

[MarkJoergensen]

Boosting self-defence range didnt help the problem.

Here's the scen file. https://easyupload.io/uqeedm

Its with C:PE 2.1

[thewood1]

Can we even run the PE edition scenarios?

[thewood1]

It ran OK in 1276.1

Here are my results with six tests as the scenario was uploaded and six tests with ESSM excluded. As uploaded; six runs with an average ship loss of 5.5. It fired mostly ESSMs out far and RAMs in close (within a few nm) and a mix in between. I shut off ESSMs and let RAMs fire alone. Average loss was 7.5 ships. That's six runs each and on average 2 less ship losses letting the AI set the WRA for those scoring at home.

Keep in mind that the commercial version has had numerous missile updates over the PE version.

[MarkJoergensen]

Well that's disappointing. I assume the RAM and ESSM were set to shoot twice pr. missile? Im unsure of how well WRAs transfer.

[thewood1]

What's disappointing? That it basically did what you thought it should? I don't remember the WRA settings on the one you posted. On the RAM only run through, it was two per salvo.

[thewood1]

Dup post

[MarkJoergensen]

What's disappointing? That it basically did what you thought it should? I don't remember the WRA settings on the one you posted. On the RAM only run through, it was two per salvo.

Disappointing that retail has more uptodate missile data than PE

[thewood1]

I'm fairly certain its your organization's own processes, assuming you for a defense agency or supplier, that stand in the way. The process for validating and approving changes is not simple. Here, the devs can throw out a beta test in hours.

[DmitriyBlade]

WRA - RAM - guided weapon (all rows) - self defence - automatic firing to max range
Shots - 3
(Assume game allocated 2 essm, 1 is ram)