Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer)

[Orm]

Axis end of turn:

Preliminary planning:
Germany - 27 production points - 37 BPs. Save 2 oil (Zagreb, and Berlin).
Italy - 11 production points - 21 BPs. Save 4 oil (Milan, Rome, Trieste, and Turin).
Japan - 20 production points - 30 BPs. Save 2 oil (Kyoto, and Canton), and idle two NEI oil.

Stay at sea:
The following units stay at sea.

Germany:
Faeroes Gap: SUB
Eastern Mediterranean: CP

Italy:
Faeroes Gap: 6 SUB
Italian Coast: CP + BB + 3 CA
Eastern Mediterranean: 4 CA
CSV: 2 SUB

Japan:
Sea of Japan: CP + BB Fuso
Japanese Coast: CA
China Sea: 12 CP + CVL + CA Haguro + CA Asama
The Marianas: CA
South China Sea: 5 CP + 2 CA
Bismarck Sea: CP + FTR2
Coral Sea: SUB in 4-box
Polynesia: SUB in 4-box

Return to Base:

Germany:
Bay of Biscay: FTR3 + NAV3 -> Brest
North Sea: SUB -> Bordeaux

Italy:
Bay of Biscay: FTR2 (G.50) -> St-Nazaire, FTR2 (Re 2002) -> 60,26 (E Bordeaux)
East Med: FTR2 -> Tripoli
Italian Coast: FTR2 -> 73,47 (Greece), 2 CA -> La Spezia

Japan:
Sea of Japan: TRS 4447 -> Tientsin, BB (Hiei) -> Singapore, CV + 2 BB + TRS -> Fukuoka
China Sea: BB Kirishima -> Singapore, TRS + AT -> Manila, CA + PARA Div -> Rangoon, AMPH + 5-3 MAR -> Singapore, AMPH + MAR ->

Batavia, CA + INF Div -> Pontinak, Borneo, NEI, CA -> Fukuoka, CA -> Manila, BB -> Batavia
The Solomons: FTR2 -> Truk
Bismarck Sea: FTR2 -> Rabaul, CA -> Manila
Polynesia: SUB -> Truk
Coral Sea: SUB -> Rabaul
New Zealand Coast: SUB -> Rabaul
Arabian Sea: 2 SUB -> Singpore
South China Sea: FTR2 -> Singapore, NAV4 -> Hong-Kong, NAV2 -> Canton, BB CA -> Fukuoka

Use Oil:

Germany:
All units, except ATR3 (Murmansk), are reorganized for 3 oil (3.4). Use saved oil in Cologne, Vienna, and Budapest.

Italy:
All units, except all SUBs, HQI, MECH, CA Artevalde, CA Tourville, BB Littorio, CA Zara, LND3 SM.81, LND3 SM.79, are reorganized

for 2 oil (2.4). Use 2 saved oil in Milan.

Japan:
All units are reorganized for 4 oil (4.3). Use the two idle NEI oil, the oil going to Canton, and oil saved in Canton.

Breakdown:

Scrap:
Italy: LND3

Production:
Germany (37):
MIL
MOT
2 ARM
FTR2
FTR3
LND3
NAV3
4 Pilot

Italy (21):
MIL
MAR
FTR2
NAV3
2 Pilot
SUB 5053 (2nd)
Repair SUB
Repair TRS

Japan (30):
HQA
2 CVP1
NAV2
NAV3
3 Pilot
BB (2nd)
CV(2nd)
SUB (2nd)
CP

Factory destruction:
-

Reinforcements:

Germany:
FTR2 (FW 190A-8) -> Kiel
FTR2 (FW 190F-3) -> Königsberg
FTR2 (BF 109G-2) -> Aachen
FTR3 (He 219) -> Dusseldorf
LND3 (Ju 88P) -> Königsberg
MIL -> Hamburg
ENG + 9-4 MOT -> Königsberg
INF -> Kiel
6-4 MOT -> Liege

Italy:
FTR2 (G.55) + NAV3 -> Palermo
FTR2 -> Genoa
MIL -> Rome
MIL -> Milan
MOT -> Naples
BB + SUB -> La Spezia

Japan:
FTR2 (Ki-84-Ia) -> Osaka
FTR2 (N1K1-J) -> Sapporo
FTR2 (Ki-44-II) + NAV3 -> Sasebo
CV -> Fukuoka
CP -> Fukuoka
AT -> Fukuoka

Voluntary Resource Lending:
Same; Germany -> Italy: 11 resources, (4 oil) + 4 BPs

Axis goes first if we win the initiative.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Can that CVP be edited? There are many CVPs with the same name. I think It’s my best 1 size CVP, but if it cannot be edited, I’m OK to get one BP and build new. If anyone can fix that, it would be great.

JJ said I should do the turn end, so there will be one week break as I’m travelling.

[jjdenver]

Editing the CVP1 to reserve pool, and one extra pilot (either some reinforcement or to the reserve pool) seems like a good way to fix it.

Are you able to make these edits?

**Also I might try EOT, I have guidance from Petteri on what he wants to do. But first let's figure out this cvp and get the file edits for that done?

[Orm]

No, I am not comfortable in editing saves.

Mayhemizer, or peskpesk, might be able. Or perhaps we can get some external help. Or do it the old fashioned way.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

I know how to edit BP and pilot, but not CVP. I believe I could edit ARM HQ or capital ship as there is only one of kind, but there are many CVPs called Swordfish.

[jjdenver]

I know how to edit BP and pilot, but not CVP. I believe I could edit ARM HQ or capital ship as there is only one of kind, but there are many CVPs called Swordfish.

Ok thanks - what is your best recommendation about how to proceed?

[Mayhemizer_slith]

My suggestions are
1) ask if betatesters have tool to fix this
2) ask if rkr1958 can fix this
3) give CW 1 BP and 1 pilot

[rkr1958]

We can agree on that is the CVP1 from the North Sea. And it should still be on the CV Illustrious. And I assume that the second lost CW pilot is from that CVP.

Not sure on how to best fix this.

Editing in a CVP on a carrier makes me fear errors. I rather see it edited to a land hex.

I am open to suggestions.

The only way I'm able to edit these is to go back to a save prior to the issue for the CVP & CV in question. Save the CVP & CV data and then copy that data over the corresponding CVP & CV in the current game file. Finally I then place the restored CVP & CV in its proper location (e.g., when the CV is in the current game file). I've had a lot of success with that approach. If you're uncomfortable with that type of edit, or not following me exactly, I'd be happy to give it a shot if you wish to post both a prior and current game file.

[Orm]

We have had issues with CVPs before. And I de recall such issues in other games. Therefore, I suggest that giving CW BPs, or adding pilots, or a combination, is the safest way to proceed.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

We have had issues with CVPs before. And I de recall such issues in other games. Therefore, I suggest that giving CW BPs, or adding pilots, or a combination, is the safest way to proceed.

That is the safe way to go.

I’m OK with it, but CW needs to use one air action before CVP is on CV as CV stay on sea. CW might take air action at some point and after that we have no problem. If there is a situation when we would like use CVP before it’s on CV, can we somehow roleplay it?

[Orm]

I am ok with some 'role-playing' to simulate how it should have been. Does that include oil usage if the cvp is to be reorganized? Or are we to role-play it to a disorganized state?

[Mayhemizer_slith]

I am ok with some 'role-playing' to simulate how it should have been. Does that include oil usage if the cvp is to be reorganized? Or are we to role-play it to a disorganized state?

We can use oil for it. I just mean there might be a situation we would like to use it on impulse 1. Other option is that first impulse Axis do nothing and Allies rebase that CVP. Then we just have to know what rolls are needed to end turn.

[Orm]

I understood you. Roleplaying it until the CVP is back on duty seems good to me.

[jjdenver]

Ok, so we will go with 1 BP and 1 PIL. I don't know how to edit pilots. I do know how to add BP while doing EOT. I can probably start EOT soon but can someone else add the PIL later? Petteri - do we need PIL this turn to place plane? If so can Axis re-send EOT file with PIL added?

[Mayhemizer_slith]

I think there are so many planes arriving CW needs pilot. Pilot could be added to reserve pilots or arriving pilots. Or move one plane from reserve to map, would that give us a pilot?

How would rkr1958 fix this? What is the easiest way?

[rkr1958]

I think there are so many planes arriving CW needs pilot. Pilot could be added to reserve pilots or arriving pilots. Or move one plane from reserve to map, would that give us a pilot?

How would rkr1958 fix this? What is the easiest way?

We can agree on that is the CVP1 from the North Sea. And it should still be on the CV Illustrious. And I assume that the second lost CW pilot is from that CVP.

Not sure on how to best fix this.

Editing in a CVP on a carrier makes me fear errors. I rather see it edited to a land hex.

I am open to suggestions.

The only way I'm able to edit these is to go back to a save prior to the issue for the CVP & CV in question. Save the CVP & CV data and then copy that data over the corresponding CVP & CV in the current game file. Finally I then place the restored CVP & CV in its proper location (e.g., when the CV is in the current game file). I've had a lot of success with that approach. If you're uncomfortable with that type of edit, or not following me exactly, I'd be happy to give it a shot if you wish to post both a prior and current game file.

[jjdenver]

Thanks for contributing to this Ronnie. Is there a way to add a pilot to reserve pool or move a pilot from reserve pool to map that you know of that is simple?

[rkr1958]

Thanks for contributing to this Ronnie. Is there a way to add a pilot to reserve pool or move a pilot from reserve pool to map that you know of that is simple?

Need to check my notes but I think I've done this before. Either way I think it would be fairly simple to add a pilot to the reserve pool or even build pool.

[rkr1958]

Thanks for contributing to this Ronnie. Is there a way to add a pilot to reserve pool or move a pilot from reserve pool to map that you know of that is simple?

Need to check my notes but I think I've done this before. Either way I think it would be fairly simple to add a pilot to the reserve pool or even build pool.

It looks pretty simple to move a PIL to production and coming in the current turn or add a PIL to the reserve pool. Post your game file at the factory destruction phase and I'll be happy to do so (either way) or show you how. Just let me know how I might help.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

That sounds good. We can post save file or if you can easily point out how to find correct pool we can even edit it. I usually edit units or BPs when I know in which hex they are. I don’t know how to find pilots in pools.