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The forward progress in this area is "not" as far as it can be. I would show it but the AAR I wrote where I used this part of the map as Germany was done on a private Discord and lost forever now. Personally Going "BALLS TO THE WALL" in the North and North center I feel is an excellent idea since the Soviets just can not do "anything" about it, period. Granted there are some drawbacks but getting terrain around Plotsk is always nice & threatening VL and Vitsbck. Oh what a feeling it isK62 wrote: Sat Oct 08, 2022 2:39 am Let me start this by saying that I don't think it's a good idea for the Axis to advance in all directions as far as possible on T1. You want to make good pockets and you may want to avoid Southern Front activation. It's also impossible to some units to be in two places at once; for instance, PG2's lead Panzer division is the one unit that can get closest to both Pskov and Smolensk, but you obviously can only choose one direction.
Polotsk: This is the area of maximum advance for PG3. Not only can it get within 3 hexes of Vitebsk but also within 9 hexes of Pskov.
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. Of course you have to have your attacks done correctly too to be able to exploit the few extra hexes. (still think it is a hex or two beyond my green line since I always try and stick my Germans in cover instead of leaving out in open)
As Axis you obviously can't advance at top speed in all directions. But if you don't go as far as possible in your main direction you might be doing something wrong. (This is also useful for the Soviet player in identifying that Axis main direction...)Ya, the lines are "very" close and very minor, BUT can make a difference. You have to lead out with "rgmt attacks" on key spots to open the path. Of course random delay is detrimental so not always to get to the spot. And defense setup can be tricky if not done in proper sequence.K62 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:51 pm Thanks for resurrecting this thread! I thought it was a pretty important discussion, but nobody took the bait at the time
Regarding the specifics, I did the testing rather quickly, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than optimal in a couple of spots. That being said, I think your line is pretty close to mine overall, if you disregard the captured hexes and look at just the light brown hexes. The roads should already be accounted for in the automatic pathfinding. (Unless you've found a bug with it!)
Someone might also get a bit further than I did by using temporarily motorized infantry at the spearhead, or by avoiding some combat delay that I didn't realize was important. But I'd have to see it to believe it
. But that is just me and what I like. Thank you so much for sharing K62 and is a "VERY" good study if people want to take this to the "extreme" level.So glad someone posted this oneK62 wrote: Sat Oct 08, 2022 2:47 am
Chernovtsy: This one is not my cup of tea, personally I prefer to avoid Southern Front activation. But there are players who don't mind it that much. You can get all the way to the Romanian border if you really want to trap those mountain divisions.
. I don't think people realize what you are showing in this picture. This one coupled with the Vinnesta is deadly. Awesome reveal here and thank you for sharing K62!There are some believe it or notK62 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:51 pm
The roads should already be accounted for in the automatic pathfinding. (Unless you've found a bug with it!)
It is how and from where you do it since optimization is not always there on long haul moves . Now you will have to test out what I said.
If done correctly a human player would not be able to cut.PeteJC wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:36 pm Focusing on going as far as possible is fine against the AI but not a human. Human player will also cut many of those units off and counter pocket them. The AI will just passively sit around. Nonetheless, in most areas you can get just about as far AND have stable pockets.
