Actually, it has been pointed out to me that there really are yellow dots in the hexes I didn't think they were in. They just really blend in and I missed them.
So it would appear that things are working right
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CaptBeefheart
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Re: More Variants - The Allies ride again - No xargun please
On the kamikaze issue, that would be gamey to me. I'm pretty sure the developers would have not have allowed that to happen if there were an easy solution to stop it.
If it were me, I'd ask for an agreement not to use kamikazes until the conditions were met as intended (whatever it says in the manual). Once conditions were met, you could both agree that it's now kamikaze season. Anyway, it's your game and you know your opponent better than we do.
In real life, once kamikazes were a real threat, the USN increased the ratio of fighters to bombers on carriers quite a bit. I'd say you should do that and be ready to hit any airfields that have large concentrations of bombers with day or night bombing or shore bombardments.
Cheers,
CB
If it were me, I'd ask for an agreement not to use kamikazes until the conditions were met as intended (whatever it says in the manual). Once conditions were met, you could both agree that it's now kamikaze season. Anyway, it's your game and you know your opponent better than we do.
In real life, once kamikazes were a real threat, the USN increased the ratio of fighters to bombers on carriers quite a bit. I'd say you should do that and be ready to hit any airfields that have large concentrations of bombers with day or night bombing or shore bombardments.
Cheers,
CB
Beer, because barley makes lousy bread.
Re: More Variants - The Allies ride again - No xargun please
Because it is a game with no house rules, I will not ask for any agreement on using kamikazes. I will just have to deal with it.
Now, since this is a modified scenario 2 using one of AndyMacs modified scenario 2s, and agreements with my opponent, I have some advantages that are not readily
apparent. One is that all of my CV based air units are resizable and have been since the start of the game( as are all of his plus his land based IJN units )
Also this is a scenario where AndyMac changed the AA values of the DP guns as per the DBB scenarios, so my AA fire is much better than standard.
Since this is a variant game, I have a lot more CVs than normal. I added 10 Essex CVs in 1943 and 6 more in 1944 with an additional 5 in 1945. I have as of March 1944
22 CVs, most configured with 2 size 22 Corsairs, 1 36 size SBD and 1 size 18 TB unit for 98 air frames per CV. And I have 7 CVLs along with the 3 remaining size 81 British CVs.
So I have a mobile striking force that is getting stronger every month. I have reassessed an operation against the Marianas and there really might not be as much to fear as I
originally thought when I realized he would have kamikazes available to him. Guam, Saipan, and Tinian are all at size 8 air fields( he increased the base size ) and Pagan is size 5.
So I think I will have enough fighter cover to deal with that, we will see.
I will have only limited bases that I can launch air attacks from against the Marianas. I might be able to gin up some night B-29 raids in the future.
I will see about doing a recap of what has happened and maybe restarting the AAR.
I will tell you I am having a lot of trouble taking Truk, I guess maybe I should have bypassed it, but I didn't. I am slowing grinding him down, but it is expensive.
I launched my second attack at Bangkok and for some reason the 2nd British Division took a real beating, losing about 250 infantry squads. Not sure why, but it is what it is.
BTW, in case anyone is interested, the AA values for the DP guns are also updated to DBB standards in the 1027 scenarios, so you will be seeing them in the future also.
Now, since this is a modified scenario 2 using one of AndyMacs modified scenario 2s, and agreements with my opponent, I have some advantages that are not readily
apparent. One is that all of my CV based air units are resizable and have been since the start of the game( as are all of his plus his land based IJN units )
Also this is a scenario where AndyMac changed the AA values of the DP guns as per the DBB scenarios, so my AA fire is much better than standard.
Since this is a variant game, I have a lot more CVs than normal. I added 10 Essex CVs in 1943 and 6 more in 1944 with an additional 5 in 1945. I have as of March 1944
22 CVs, most configured with 2 size 22 Corsairs, 1 36 size SBD and 1 size 18 TB unit for 98 air frames per CV. And I have 7 CVLs along with the 3 remaining size 81 British CVs.
So I have a mobile striking force that is getting stronger every month. I have reassessed an operation against the Marianas and there really might not be as much to fear as I
originally thought when I realized he would have kamikazes available to him. Guam, Saipan, and Tinian are all at size 8 air fields( he increased the base size ) and Pagan is size 5.
So I think I will have enough fighter cover to deal with that, we will see.
I will have only limited bases that I can launch air attacks from against the Marianas. I might be able to gin up some night B-29 raids in the future.
I will see about doing a recap of what has happened and maybe restarting the AAR.
I will tell you I am having a lot of trouble taking Truk, I guess maybe I should have bypassed it, but I didn't. I am slowing grinding him down, but it is expensive.
I launched my second attack at Bangkok and for some reason the 2nd British Division took a real beating, losing about 250 infantry squads. Not sure why, but it is what it is.
BTW, in case anyone is interested, the AA values for the DP guns are also updated to DBB standards in the 1027 scenarios, so you will be seeing them in the future also.
Re: More Variants - The Allies ride again - No xargun please
Now that I have pretty much gotten over my initial reaction to my opponents action, I will do a recap and show you where we are at now.
The date is now March 10, 1944.
Here is the intel screen
The first place is Truk. I landed there January 27, 1944. I have done 6 Deliberate Attacks so far and only have
4 of them reduced the forts. But, now that the forts are down to level 5 and I can keep Xargun from building them, my BBs will be able to do
worthwhile bombardment attacks from 32,000+ yards and incur no damage. It will take a while, but I will eventually take Truk.
I landed 3 USA Infantry divisions and one USMC division, with a HQc, 2 engineer regiments, and 7 ART units all with 155mm guns.
I am a little above 120% of the stacking limit and have about 58,000 supply there. If I have to, I can land more using LSTs. I have a good number
of them and it seems that I incur small losses if I just send them in by themselves.
Next is the Western part of the Pacific around Sorong. I am using FT and landing craft to slowly extend my perimeter in this area
The picture here
Next comes Thailand. As you can see, much of Thailand is in my hands. It will take a while to grind down Bangkok, but it will fall
After than I will concentrate on securing all of the area of Indochina, Thailand, and Vietnam. That will provide some alternate routes
for supply to flow into China.
China has mostly be static for the last months, but things will heat up when I secure a main road/railline route to China
My future plans for the Pacific area are still up in the air at this time.
The date is now March 10, 1944.
Here is the intel screen
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4 of them reduced the forts. But, now that the forts are down to level 5 and I can keep Xargun from building them, my BBs will be able to do
worthwhile bombardment attacks from 32,000+ yards and incur no damage. It will take a while, but I will eventually take Truk.
I landed 3 USA Infantry divisions and one USMC division, with a HQc, 2 engineer regiments, and 7 ART units all with 155mm guns.
I am a little above 120% of the stacking limit and have about 58,000 supply there. If I have to, I can land more using LSTs. I have a good number
of them and it seems that I incur small losses if I just send them in by themselves.
Next is the Western part of the Pacific around Sorong. I am using FT and landing craft to slowly extend my perimeter in this area
The picture here
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Next comes Thailand. As you can see, much of Thailand is in my hands. It will take a while to grind down Bangkok, but it will fall
After than I will concentrate on securing all of the area of Indochina, Thailand, and Vietnam. That will provide some alternate routes
for supply to flow into China.
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My future plans for the Pacific area are still up in the air at this time.
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Re: More Variants - The Allies ride again - No xargun please
Glad to hear you are continuing and are taking on the challenge. That will give you cover to do something borderline in the future. I had forgotten about all those Essexes you have. I'd probably jack those Corsair numbers to over 50 per deck to be safe. In stock scenarios, on Jan 1, 1945 you get something like 70 F6Fs and F4Us per deck (and 15 ea. DBs and TBs).
Truk is a tough nut. Do you have any tank battalions you can throw in? Even at relatively low prep that might help a lot. They are good bang for the buck in terms of stacking.
Cheers,
CB
Truk is a tough nut. Do you have any tank battalions you can throw in? Even at relatively low prep that might help a lot. They are good bang for the buck in terms of stacking.
Cheers,
CB
Beer, because barley makes lousy bread.
Re: More Variants - The Allies ride again - No xargun please
I am coming to the conclusion that I have two things to prepare for. In my experience having a lot of extra fighters in a CV vs CV battle is not that useful.
It appears from my previous experience that having smaller numbers of fighters and more bombers is better.
But when defending against kamikazes, I think that having more fighters is better. So I am caught between this. I am not sure what to do.
I am using 44 fighters per CV now with 36 DBs and 18 TBs.
As far as Truk, I already have around 72,000 stacking, so I am at 120% of its 60,000 stacking limit now. I am getting good results with
single BB bombardments from 35,000 feet now and I have more BBs being repaired in a few days. When I tried initially I did not get
any hits, but then the forts were at level 9 and not at level 5 I can get some disabled and destroyed devices every turn. There are not many
but I am keeping station to keep supply from being moved in and constant daily air bombing should help also. My latest DAs have shown a
negative for disruption. I hope in the near future there will be a negative supply also.
It appears from my previous experience that having smaller numbers of fighters and more bombers is better.
But when defending against kamikazes, I think that having more fighters is better. So I am caught between this. I am not sure what to do.
I am using 44 fighters per CV now with 36 DBs and 18 TBs.
As far as Truk, I already have around 72,000 stacking, so I am at 120% of its 60,000 stacking limit now. I am getting good results with
single BB bombardments from 35,000 feet now and I have more BBs being repaired in a few days. When I tried initially I did not get
any hits, but then the forts were at level 9 and not at level 5 I can get some disabled and destroyed devices every turn. There are not many
but I am keeping station to keep supply from being moved in and constant daily air bombing should help also. My latest DAs have shown a
negative for disruption. I hope in the near future there will be a negative supply also.
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More daily briefings for now
March 11, 1944
Not a lot happening.
A single BB bombarding from 35,000 yards
I expect the disruption to continue, and he can not build forts while repairing the damage.
I am planning on taking Talaud-eilanden, so I am bombing it to prepare for the invasion
March 11, 1944
Not a lot happening.
A single BB bombarding from 35,000 yards
Daily bombing of Truk continues, I am bombing the port, airfield, and troops. Not a lot of damage occurring, butNight Naval bombardment of Truk at 112,108
Allied Ships
BB New Mexico
Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 12
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB New Mexico
BB New Mexico firing at Truk
I expect the disruption to continue, and he can not build forts while repairing the damage.
I am planning on taking Talaud-eilanden, so I am bombing it to prepare for the invasion
Morning Air attack on Yangtze SNLF, at 79,97 (Talaud-eilanden)
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 84
P-38H Lightning x 43
Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Yangtze SNLF, at 79,97 (Talaud-eilanden)
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Yangtze SNLF, at 79,97 (Talaud-eilanden)
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Yangtze SNLF, at 79,97 (Talaud-eilanden)
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Yangtze SNLF, at 79,97 (Talaud-eilanden)
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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March 12, 1944
Another single BB naval bombardment of Truk is a small success.
So I ordered a massive P-47 sweep of Bangkok for next turn.
Another single BB naval bombardment of Truk is a small success.
At Bangkok, Xargun did a bombardment attack and I did a Deliberate AttackNight Naval bombardment of Truk at 112,108
Allied Ships
BB Wyoming
Japanese ground losses:
71 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Wyoming
BB Wyoming firing at 54th Division
I need to use my bombers in the area to bomb the airfield, but he has 300+ fighters stationed there.
Ground combat at Bangkok (56,62)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 76449 troops, 717 guns, 836 vehicles, Assault Value = 2821
Defending force 75263 troops, 1231 guns, 1414 vehicles, Assault Value = 2159
Japanese ground losses:
198 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
120 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Assaulting units:
22nd Division
2nd Guards Division
47th Division
43rd Division
Guards Tank Division
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
42nd Division
6th RTA/A Division
1st RTA/B Division
Royal Thai Army
15th Army
Thai Aviation Coy
13th Air Fleet
36th Field AA Battalion
21th JNAF AF Unit
Defending units:
1st New Chinese Corps
43rd Cavalry Regiment
5th Indian Division
150th RAC Regiment
Provisionl Tank Brigade
Gardner's Horse Regiment
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
42nd Cavalry Regiment
25th Indian Division
9th Australian Division
12th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
33rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
IV Indian Corps
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
29th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd West African AA Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
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Ground combat at Bangkok (56,62)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 70029 troops, 1182 guns, 1224 vehicles, Assault Value = 2148
Defending force 85162 troops, 768 guns, 951 vehicles, Assault Value = 2804
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4
Allied adjusted assault: 1182
Japanese adjusted defense: 13039
Allied assault odds: 1 to 11 (fort level 4)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1479 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 156 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Vehicles lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
3102 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 296 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 96 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 48 disabled
Guns lost 42 (4 destroyed, 38 disabled)
Vehicles lost 127 (5 destroyed, 122 disabled)
Assaulting units:
5th Indian Division
Gardner's Horse Regiment
1st New Chinese Corps
25th Indian Division
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
Provisionl Tank Brigade
42nd Cavalry Regiment
43rd Cavalry Regiment
9th Australian Division
2/13th Field Regiment
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
12th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
3rd West African AA Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
29th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
IV Indian Corps
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
33rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Defending units:
6th RTA/A Division
Guards Tank Division
22nd Division
42nd Division
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
43rd Division
2nd Guards Division
47th Division
1st RTA/B Division
Thai Aviation Coy
36th Field AA Battalion
Royal Thai Army
15th Army
13th Air Fleet
21th JNAF AF Unit
So I ordered a massive P-47 sweep of Bangkok for next turn.
Re: More Variants - The Allies ride again - No xargun please
I did my bombardments of Truk earlier in the game - 1943 - and I am not sure if the gun type or count there goes up for 1944, but my experience was that I could start moving my bombardments much closer than 35K. I closed 5K closer with each successive bombardment. I was at 25K yards before seeing any shell splashes.
At 20K I stayed at that range for several turns, with the odd hit that did little damage. After about 10 turns and fewer shots coming at me I closed in by 2K yards until I was at 12K. Around that time the guns were all disabled or out of ammo and I could set my standoff to 0 (had to form a new bombardment TF to get 0, the original TF could only go to 1).
To go closer than 15K feet you have to set "Escorts Bombard". The BBs typically don't go closer than 6k, cruisers to 4K and DDs to 2k.
I had no other targets at the time so I used 3BBs in my bombardment TFs and had 4 or 5 of them cycling through. Replenish at Ponape.
At 20K I stayed at that range for several turns, with the odd hit that did little damage. After about 10 turns and fewer shots coming at me I closed in by 2K yards until I was at 12K. Around that time the guns were all disabled or out of ammo and I could set my standoff to 0 (had to form a new bombardment TF to get 0, the original TF could only go to 1).
To go closer than 15K feet you have to set "Escorts Bombard". The BBs typically don't go closer than 6k, cruisers to 4K and DDs to 2k.
I had no other targets at the time so I used 3BBs in my bombardment TFs and had 4 or 5 of them cycling through. Replenish at Ponape.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
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Mar 13, 1944
I am not sure about moving closer, I might try when I get a few more BBs available. At this time I have most of my USN BB in for repair.
I had to send two of them to Seattle since they lost main turrets and needed close to a size 200 shipyard to repair those turrets.
and I have 15 others in various stages of repair. Most will be out in about 30-35 days, but others will take 3-4 months to finish up.
For now since I only have two BBs available for bombardment duty, I will stay outside of the 32,000 yard range of his 20cm CD guns.
I am using fast BBs, Iowas and New Jerseys to bombard with, so they can get from Ponape to Truk quickly.
One problem I had was shells from the CD guns hitting the superstructure and causing system damage.
These guys could have been heroes, but they failed.
present. I will sweep again and send in a number of my heavy bombers.
I am not sure about moving closer, I might try when I get a few more BBs available. At this time I have most of my USN BB in for repair.
I had to send two of them to Seattle since they lost main turrets and needed close to a size 200 shipyard to repair those turrets.
and I have 15 others in various stages of repair. Most will be out in about 30-35 days, but others will take 3-4 months to finish up.
For now since I only have two BBs available for bombardment duty, I will stay outside of the 32,000 yard range of his 20cm CD guns.
I am using fast BBs, Iowas and New Jerseys to bombard with, so they can get from Ponape to Truk quickly.
One problem I had was shells from the CD guns hitting the superstructure and causing system damage.
These guys could have been heroes, but they failed.
Another small naval bombardment at TrukSub attack near Iba at 74,69
Japanese Ships
CV Harima
DD Shiranui
DD Zuiho
DD Eiko
DD Hokaze
DD Yukaze
Allied Ships
SS Guitarro, hits 30, and is sunk
SS Guitarro launches 4 torpedoes at CV Harima
Guitarro diving deep ....
DD Zuiho fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Eiko fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hokaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Eiko attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yukaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Eiko attacking submerged sub ....
SS Guitarro forced to surface!
DD Hokaze firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Yukaze firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Zuiho firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Hokaze firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Zuiho firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Zuiho firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Eiko firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Hokaze firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves
Curious, I sent about 300 sweepers over Bangkok and they found no fighters in the air. And recon shows no aircraftNight Naval bombardment of Truk at 112,108
Allied Ships
BB New Mexico
Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB New Mexico
BB New Mexico firing at 54th Division
present. I will sweep again and send in a number of my heavy bombers.
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March 14, 1944
Continuing at Truk
None of my bombers flew to Bangkok again, not sure what the hold up is. They are stationed at Rangoon, with 130,000+ supply
at least 2 x the needed air support. I guess weather.
Xargun did do a bombardment attack at Bangkok again, not sure why
Continuing at Truk
I ordered a DA at Truk to see if I can get the forts down to 4.Night Naval bombardment of Truk at 112,108
Allied Ships
BB Wyoming
Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (3 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 16
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Wyoming
BB Wyoming firing at Truk
None of my bombers flew to Bangkok again, not sure what the hold up is. They are stationed at Rangoon, with 130,000+ supply
at least 2 x the needed air support. I guess weather.
Xargun did do a bombardment attack at Bangkok again, not sure why
My vehicles losses were motorized support.
Ground combat at Bangkok (56,62)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 75446 troops, 717 guns, 835 vehicles, Assault Value = 2699
Defending force 70860 troops, 1230 guns, 1221 vehicles, Assault Value = 1806
Japanese ground losses:
308 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 15 (7 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Assaulting units:
43rd Division
6th RTA/A Division
22nd Division
Guards Tank Division
42nd Division
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
2nd Guards Division
47th Division
1st RTA/B Division
36th Field AA Battalion
13th Air Fleet
Royal Thai Army
Thai Aviation Coy
15th Army
21th JNAF AF Unit
Defending units:
Gardner's Horse Regiment
5th Indian Division
Provisionl Tank Brigade
150th RAC Regiment
25th Indian Division
1st New Chinese Corps
9th Australian Division
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
29th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
12th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
IV Indian Corps
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
3rd West African AA Regiment
33rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
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Interesting that he has no pure Artillery units, just what is embedded in his Infantry Divisions. That caused a lot of infantry casualties to the IJA but your guns did not do any counterbattery damage to his guns. Can't expect much from short-range mountain guns, but I expected the Medium Regiments would do better.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
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March 15, 1944
Another day of pain, misery, and disappointment.
Again my bombers did not fly against Bangkok.
Even my fighters did not fly.
Thunderstorms and more predicted for tomorrow.
My DA at Truk did not lower the forts. sigh.
Another day of pain, misery, and disappointment.
Again my bombers did not fly against Bangkok.
Even my fighters did not fly.
Thunderstorms and more predicted for tomorrow.
My DA at Truk did not lower the forts. sigh.
The BB New Mexico plunked some more
Ground combat at Truk (112,108)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 50136 troops, 1176 guns, 1379 vehicles, Assault Value = 1093
Defending force 31207 troops, 345 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 979
Allied adjusted assault: 1005
Japanese adjusted defense: 9361
Allied assault odds: 1 to 9 (fort level 5)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
801 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 63 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2631 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 207 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 65 disabled
Engineers: 24 destroyed, 97 disabled
Guns lost 82 (20 destroyed, 62 disabled)
Vehicles lost 208 (48 destroyed, 160 disabled)
Assaulting units:
131st Combat Engineer Regiment
192nd Tank Battalion
763rd Tank Battalion
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
762nd Tank Battalion
1st Marine Division
Americal Infantry Division
3rd Infantry Division
35th Infantry Division
30th Field Artillery Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
181st Field Artillery Regiment
40th Field Artillery Regiment
III US Corps
188th Field Artillery Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
183rd Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
3rd GEACPS Brigade
5th GEACPS Brigade
54th Division
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
Truk Naval Fortress
25th Air Defense AA Regiment
21st Air Defense AA Regiment
46th JAAF AF Bn
Night Naval bombardment of Truk at 112,108
Allied Ships
BB New Mexico
Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (5 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 11
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB New Mexico
BB New Mexico firing at Truk
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March 16, 1944
Another frustrating day, again my bombers did not fly against Bangkok. Thunderstorms again?
Tomorrow is predicted to be overcast, maybe they will fly.
A small Naval bombardment at Truk
big guns
The ART did a bombardment attack at Truk
The disabled ones were all .5 in AA guns
Another frustrating day, again my bombers did not fly against Bangkok. Thunderstorms again?
Tomorrow is predicted to be overcast, maybe they will fly.
A small Naval bombardment at Truk
A larger one ordered for tomorrow. My BBs are getting repaired slowly, but as they do they will add in theirNight Naval bombardment of Truk at 112,108
Allied Ships
BB Wyoming
Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Wyoming
BB Wyoming firing at 54th Division
big guns
The ART did a bombardment attack at Truk
The guns lost were 1 155mm gun and 2 .5 in AA guns.
Ground combat at Truk (112,108)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3150 troops, 330 guns, 210 vehicles, Assault Value = 785
Defending force 30707 troops, 344 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 928
Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled)
The disabled ones were all .5 in AA guns
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March 17, 1944
A little better, at least my bombers flew and damaged the airfield at Bangkok, I hope he was not able to build the forts while they would no fly.
A 4 x Bb bombardment of Truk yields some better results
Ground bombardment attacks are getting better results
A little better, at least my bombers flew and damaged the airfield at Bangkok, I hope he was not able to build the forts while they would no fly.
A 4 x Bb bombardment of Truk yields some better results
Small bombardment next turnNight Naval bombardment of Truk at 112,108
Allied Ships
BB Royal Sovereign
BB Revenge
BB Alabama
BB New Mexico
Japanese ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 6
BB Royal Sovereign firing at 54th Division
BB Revenge firing at 54th Division
BB Alabama firing at Truk
BB New Mexico firing at 54th Division
Ground bombardment attacks are getting better results
Ground combat at Truk (112,108)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3150 troops, 327 guns, 210 vehicles, Assault Value = 822
Defending force 30657 troops, 343 guns, 51 vehicles, Assault Value = 935
Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
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March 18, 1944
Bombers flew against Bangkok, two days in a row.
At Truk, another small Naval Bombardment is successful
Interesting, the Japanese troops did not do a bombardment attack. Probably means there is not much there
I have been bombing them for days with B-25D1s at low altitude.
I am unsure what this small TF was doing going to Bangkok, but they are now permanent dive locations
Bombers flew against Bangkok, two days in a row.
At Truk, another small Naval Bombardment is successful
Ground bombardment at Truk is not so goodNight Naval bombardment of Truk at 112,108
Allied Ships
BB Wyoming
Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 12
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Wyoming
BB Wyoming firing at Truk
I landed a partial Regiment at Talaud-eilanden. They have a fairly high disruption, they will restGround combat at Truk (112,108)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3150 troops, 327 guns, 210 vehicles, Assault Value = 868
Defending force 30715 troops, 342 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 953
Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Interesting, the Japanese troops did not do a bombardment attack. Probably means there is not much there
I have been bombing them for days with B-25D1s at low altitude.
I am unsure what this small TF was doing going to Bangkok, but they are now permanent dive locations
Morning Air attack on TF, near Bangkok at 56,62
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 20
P-38E Lightning x 18
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
xAKL Miiko Maru, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
xAKL Nittatsu Maru, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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March 19, 1944
A nice Naval Bombardment of Truk
Lots of air strikes, Truk, Bangkok, Talaud-eilanden, etc.
A nice Naval Bombardment of Truk
Ground bombardment was not so good.Night Naval bombardment of Truk at 112,108
Allied Ships
BB Ramillies
BB South Dakota
Japanese ground losses:
143 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (3 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 8
BB Ramillies firing at 54th Division
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB South Dakota
BB South Dakota firing at Truk
Lots of air strikes, Truk, Bangkok, Talaud-eilanden, etc.
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March 20, 1944
Naval bombardment of Truk
A good number of guns destroyed and disabled.
I am not sure why he is sending small TFs to Bangkok, delivering supply?
Naval bombardment of Truk
A good number of guns destroyed and disabled.
Air attacks at Bangkok, Truk, Talaud-eilanden.Night Naval bombardment of Truk at 112,108
Allied Ships
BB Royal Sovereign
BB Revenge
BB New Mexico
Japanese ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 17 (10 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 8
BB Royal Sovereign firing at 54th Division
BB Revenge firing at Truk
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB New Mexico
BB New Mexico firing at Truk
I am not sure why he is sending small TFs to Bangkok, delivering supply?
Xargun did try and bomb my troops at Bangkok, but some Spitfire VIIIs said that was not a good idea.Morning Air attack on TF, near Bangkok at 56,62
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 10
P-38E Lightning x 18
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
xAKL Nichizui Maru, Shell hits 4, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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March 21, 1944
A somewhat quiet turn.
A single prewar BB bombards Truk
More troops land at Talaud-eilanden
A somewhat quiet turn.
A single prewar BB bombards Truk
Bombs fall in all the normal locationsNight Naval bombardment of Truk at 112,108
Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania
Japanese ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Pennsylvania
BB Pennsylvania firing at 54th Division
More troops land at Talaud-eilanden
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March 22, 1944
Naval bombardment of Truk
airfield is showing 100% damage for days now. Of course this was the day that my fighters did not
fly sweeps in the AM phase, they all went in the PM phase. So I lost some bombers, but we did make
him pay somewhat. Here are the total air losses for the turn, Not a terrible loss, but it is never fun
to lose, especially when the program decides the weather is too bad to fly for fighters, but bombers can.
Normal air bombing of Truk
Naval bombardment of Truk
In the air over Bangkok he was able to move 300+ fighters in and they flew cap even though theNight Naval bombardment of Truk at 112,108
Allied Ships
BB Alabama
Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Alabama
BB Alabama firing at 5th GEACPS Brigade
airfield is showing 100% damage for days now. Of course this was the day that my fighters did not
fly sweeps in the AM phase, they all went in the PM phase. So I lost some bombers, but we did make
him pay somewhat. Here are the total air losses for the turn, Not a terrible loss, but it is never fun
to lose, especially when the program decides the weather is too bad to fly for fighters, but bombers can.
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