[DB ERROR] Balao submarine specs seem to be wrong.

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[DB ERROR] Balao submarine specs seem to be wrong.

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The sources I've seen on the internet all seem to say the top speed of the Balao on the surface was 20+ kts. In game it's 18 kts, plus it burns batteries at top speed on the surface or snorkeling which I don't believe is correct. Also, the published cruising speed is 10kts, but in game it is 8kts. Additionally, in game the Balao can manage 16 kts underwater at flank speed, but sources I've found say it was 8.75 kts. I believe this may be a typo in the DB as 9 kts equates to 16 kph.

"USS Balao carried 10 officers and 70 enlisted men in a hull 312 feet (95 m) long that displaced 2,415 tons submerged. Her armament included deck guns and 24 torpedoes. On the surface, powered by four diesel engines, the Balao had a top speed just over 20 knots (37 km/hr); cruising at 10 knots (18 km/hr) her range was 11,000 nautical miles (20,000 km). Two 126-cell battery groups gave her a submerged top speed of 8.75 knots (16.2 km/hr); holding her speed to 2 knots (4 km/hr), she could remain submerged for 48 hours." - The American History Museum
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Re: Balao submarine specs seem to be wrong.

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StellarRat wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:36 am The sources I've seen on the internet all seem to say the top speed of the Balao on the surface was 20+ kts. In game it's 18 kts, plus it burns batteries at top speed on the surface or snorkeling which I don't believe is correct. Also, the published cruising speed is 10kts, but in game it is 8kts. Additionally, in game the Balao can manage 16 kts underwater at flank speed, but sources I've found say it was 8.75 kts. I believe this may be a typo in the DB as 9 kts equates to 16 kph.

"USS Balao carried 10 officers and 70 enlisted men in a hull 312 feet (95 m) long that displaced 2,415 tons submerged. Her armament included deck guns and 24 torpedoes. On the surface, powered by four diesel engines, the Balao had a top speed just over 20 knots (37 km/hr); cruising at 10 knots (18 km/hr) her range was 11,000 nautical miles (20,000 km). Two 126-cell battery groups gave her a submerged top speed of 8.75 knots (16.2 km/hr); holding her speed to 2 knots (4 km/hr), she could remain submerged for 48 hours." - The American History Museum
Ah, but those stats seem to refer to the Balaos as they served in WW2, are you sure you're not looking at a DB entry for a Post-War GUPPY conversion Balao class?

Those configs would have made them somewhat faster underwater, with the removal of guns and smoothing out of exterior surfaces.
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Re: Balao submarine specs seem to be wrong.

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Hi StellarRat, this was forwarded to our DB team. We have a github page to notify DB issue
https://github.com/PygmalionOfCyprus/cmo-db-requests
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Re: Balao submarine specs seem to be wrong.

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HalfLifeExpert wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:52 am Ah, but those stats seem to refer to the Balaos as they served in WW2, are you sure you're not looking at a DB entry for a Post-War GUPPY conversion Balao class?

Those configs would have made them somewhat faster underwater, with the removal of guns and smoothing out of exterior surfaces.
I looked at the sub in game and it has the deck gun, Bofors and some other stuff on the deck. Also, the only mod I see seems to be the improved pressure hull and better pumps that allow it to dive much deeper than the original Balao.
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Re: Balao submarine specs seem to be wrong.

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StellarRat wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:27 pm
HalfLifeExpert wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:52 am Ah, but those stats seem to refer to the Balaos as they served in WW2, are you sure you're not looking at a DB entry for a Post-War GUPPY conversion Balao class?

Those configs would have made them somewhat faster underwater, with the removal of guns and smoothing out of exterior surfaces.
I looked at the sub in game and it has the deck gun, Bofors and some other stuff on the deck. Also, the only mod I see seems to be the improved pressure hull and better pumps that allow it to dive much deeper than the original Balao.
Ah so it seems there is some inaccuracies with the WW2 Vintage Balaos. I'm sure it will be addressed in the next DB update
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