Cant send slaves to other colonies ....

[R_TEAM]

I can set the Race to Enslavery ....
I can set the Race to force Migration .....
but i cant set both ....
If i set an race i have enslaved, to force migration, he get an enormous reproduction boost and make it even harder to full migrate ....
It should be possible to have an race enslaved AND force here migration ....
(and i think the enslave penaltys on the planet are to low ... an race where get enslaved should be more upset ....)

Regards

[zgrssd]

A few things:
- setting a species to Enslavement gives a massive reproduction penalty. If you go to Migration, that one is turned off
- for overall suitability based happiness, only the biggest species counts
- each species does have their own maximum population, based on their "personal" suitability

Ideally you want slaves mixed into other colonies. So much they are only a minority. And only enslave if you got some non-enslaved populations to run the planet.

[Jorgen_CAB]

Perhaps the game should have forced resettlement as part of the mechanics. So using both enslavement and forced migrations should work at the same time, but should also give additional happiness penalties of course.

[frankycl]

It should be possible to have an race enslaved AND force here migration ....

No, those are two different things (by design):

Migration happens automatically and resembles the transfer of population by free-will - but enslaved pop can't leave their planets by free-will and therefore also can't be a part of normal migration.
However, this leads to a massive slower pop-increase, when you had enslaved many pops on several planets (or all pop on the planets), without any un-slaved pop inside your migration-range - so, there needs to be an additional way of transferring enslaved pop between planets, I think (if your not doing it all manually). - But maybe this will be changed/improved with the release of the next DLC (because then the AI-factions will have to deal with this, too)... we'll see.

(and i think the enslave penaltys on the planet are to low ... an race where get enslaved should be more upset ....)

Also no, according to my experience, because it's much more complicated than that:

The approval of an (completly or only partly) enslaved planet depends on much more than only the happiness of the enslaved pop - and this is very important, because otherwise those planets would rebel very quickly - and even more quickly with an increased happiness-penalty (the happiness of the pop already gets a big penalty - depending on the amount-relation between enslaved and un-enslaved pop - AND they also get an serious decrease of pop-growth).
It depends also on the garrison-troops on the planet (quantity and quality) and on many other colony-/empire-wide bonuses that could apply for the planet/colony.

But what you most likely meant (and what is the realy problem, imho) is that you don't get to see the happiness of the enslaved pop/race alone - or any other race, too (except when you enslaved all pop on the planet), but only a general display of the happiness of all of the pop on the planet, with all different races you might have there (and which might be/not be enslaved) together. Therefore it's not easy to evaluate the "upset-level" of the enslaved pop on planets that are not enslaved completely.

In fact, according to my experiences with comletely or party enslaved colonies (and many additional reports of others) the penalty is already far too big (compared to completely un-enslaved planets), or at least needs some additional functions/possibilities to compensate for e.g. not being integrated in the migration-system of the game.

To sum up, I think the whole slavery-feature has to be re-vised - but I've got a feeling that we'll get to see this with the introduction of the upcomming first DLC (but of course this has to and will not be limmited to owning/using the DLC additionally).

[R_TEAM]

To inform over a little missunderstanding (but dont have know this is important - as i only need an way enslaved pop to shift to other planets ....) .....
On the planet in relation it is only one race - this race is enslaved (i conquered the planet , and then an second, will concentrate all of this race on the second planet )
The planet give me an big drain on cash and "i" simply dont need the race here on this planet .......
And the way that i cant transfer enslaved pop from one of my worlds to another (but "free" pop is not an problem) is getting this game not more "simulation" feeling .......

[frankycl]

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And the way that i cant transfer enslaved pop from one of my worlds to another (but "free" pop is not an problem) is getting this game not more "simulation" feeling .......

Yes, totally agreed - this is one thing (of many others) that urgently need change/improvement regarding slavery.