Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer)

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Clear NAV2, thank you.

[Orm]

May/Jun '44
Impulse #4 (Axis)

Does Allies abort the air combat.

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Edit: Picture added.

[Orm]

Except that it is -1 for Axis and 0 for Allies. reverse of what you said it should be.

Excatly. Modify rolls to fit -1 for Allies

Let me try one more time.

Axis:
9,1 - 8,6 -> +0,5 rounded up to +1 -> modified to 0 by points
Allies:
8,6 - 9,1 -> -0,5 rounded up to 0

So it should be 0/0. But it is -1 for Axis, while you write that it should be -1 for Allies.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

We stay one more round at least

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Except that it is -1 for Axis and 0 for Allies. reverse of what you said it should be.

Excatly. Modify rolls to fit -1 for Allies

Let me try one more time.

Axis:
9,1 - 8,6 -> +0,5 rounded up to +1 -> modified to 0 by points
Allies:
8,6 - 9,1 -> -0,5 rounded up to 0

So it should be 0/0. But it is -1 for Axis, while you write that it should be -1 for Allies.

I thought it goes like this.

Axis 9,1 Allies 8,8

->Axis +1/+1

Modified to 0/+1

-> Axis 0, Allies -1

[Orm]

Yes. That was how we played it. But once I started with MWIF I learned that all rounds up.

Cut from RAC:
2.6 Fractions
These rules frequently require a calculation that produces a fraction. When necessary, fractions are rounded
to the nearest whole number, by rounding halves up.
Example: Germany has 21 production points. Her production multiple is 1.25, so she has 26.25 build points.
This rounds to 26 points. Next year her production multiple increases to 1.5, so she has 31.5 build points. This
rounds to 32.
Rounding a negative number up moves you closer to zero. For example, if the fraction is -1.5, it rounds up to -1.

[Orm]

With that said, I would have been glad if it had been -> Axis 0, Allies -1 as it then would be an error to our advantage.

[Orm]

Where will Allies land their aborted FTR2?

(Here it made a difference. )

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[Mayhemizer_slith]

Edited, read wrong.

I still think in A2A combat you count the difference and odds are always something like +1/+1 or +3/+3, never 0/+1.

Should we make sure about this before moving on? I think result is DX.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

If it’s abort and not DX land fighter to Malta.

[Orm]

Cut from RAC 11.5.9 Naval air combat:
....
Example: If your air to air strength was 7 and your opponent’s was 4, your air-to-air combat value would be
+3 and your opponent’s -3 (see 14.3.2). You have 4 surprise points. For 2 of them, you could increase your air-toair
combat value to +4, or decrease your opponent’s to -4. To increase yours as well as decreasing your opponent’s
value would cost all 4 surprise points.

[Orm]

Edited, read wrong.

I still think in A2A combat you count the difference and odds are always something like +1/+1 or +3/+3, never 0/+1.

Should we make sure about this before moving on? I think result is DX.

The result should indeed have been a DX. However, I am not sure if we correct for bugs to get the correct result. Or just play on as it is (with an AA). I am willing to follow your call on this.

[Orm]

I still think in A2A combat you count the difference and odds are always something like +1/+1 or +3/+3, never 0/+1.

No, the air combat is often something like 0/+1 and so on. Here is an example that shows exactly that.

Cut from RAC:
14.3 Air-to-air combat
....
14.3.3 Combat results
....
They calculate their combat values. Jeremy has an air-to-air strength of 6.5 (½ for the carrier plane) while
Maria has an air-to-air strength of 4. Therefore, Jeremy has a combat value of “+3” (6.5-4, rounding to 3) and
Maria has “-2” (4-6.5, rounding to -2). There are no shifts to apply due to surprise (see 11.5.6) and they are not
playing with any optional rules.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Aah, then I was wrong. As usual. So what was the correcy odds?

EDIT

After using my points 0/0

So result is DX. Shoot down… LND4

[Orm]

Axis: +0,5 -> +1 -> 0
Allies -0,5 -> 0

So correct odds should be 0/0

Edit: You said it in your edit.

I hade a save error when trying to reload. Need a sort break before trying another save point.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Of course we fix dice to work around a bug

So result is DX. Shoot down LND4

[Orm]

May/Jun '44
Impulse #4 (Axis)

The air combat ends with one Axis bomber cleared. And the result changed to one US LND4 shot down.

Axis aborts the air combat even if Allies would have stayed.

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[Orm]

May/Jun '44
Impulse #4 (Axis)

Italian AA is fairly accurate. (3,10,6,7,10)

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[Orm]

May/Jun '44
Impulse #4 (Axis)

On what ship should the A be placed?

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[Mayhemizer_slith]

TRS please