RECON AD - Mis:Esc switched - [Edit: math]

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RECON AD - Mis:Esc switched - [Edit: math]

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Re: RECON AD - Mis:Esc switched

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Looks wrong, however without a save it's a mystery. I did a test recon run and it worked fine, so we need to get a save that allows us to replicate it. Is this something you've seen more than once?
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Re: RECON AD - Mis:Esc switched

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Joel Billings wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:12 pm Is this something you've seen more than once?
If I start the Scenario StB, delete all Soviet ADs and then set up a single RECON AD, I always get results like this which doesn't make sense to me, I wasn't able to recreate the "switched" numbers right now, but those may anyways only be the result of a x2 in the calculation:
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I have no idea what math is going on. I changed the "Exec Detail" from NONE to ALL, then tracked the Battles with Message levels of 3.
There are 3 Missions starting, with 12 Planes each, some additional Air Combats occur as well and then there is partial Escorts.
The Total number of Sorties this Air Phase is about ~75 usually (ran that test now several times), that's the number on the bottom right BOX of the Air execution phase.
The number of MISsion planes seems to be always doubled, for whatever reason?! (3*12=36 -> 36*2=72)
The Pilots of that Recon AG/AOG have on average about ~15 Missions, so the other ~11 usually died during missions, but it's far from having 72 Missions flown by the Pilots of that AG/AOG.
Joel Billings wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:12 pm I did a test recon run and it worked fine, so we need to get a save that allows us to replicate it.
Attached the save before and after, including the logs of my run.

To me it seems that:
  • the correct Escort number is multiplied by 2 to show 78 in the totals
  • the correct number of Mission planes is the one in the totals and the individual report is double that
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Re: RECON AD - Mis:Esc switched - [Edit: math]

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I created an AD with just 1 escort and 1 recon a/c flying just one mission, and got similar accounting issues. When I turned off partial escorts, it all showed correctly. So partial escorts are likely screwing up the count (display only), or possibly there is an issue with who flies when partial escorts are used. My guess is it's a display only, but I've put it on Pavel's bug list to look at. Thanks for the saves.
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Re: RECON AD - Mis:Esc switched - [Edit: math]

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Issue is still present.
Still not 100% sure what's going on, EDIT: see post below. but this shows Soviet planes being counted as German Recon Mission ones?!
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Re: RECON AD - Mis:Esc switched - [Edit: math]

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Wiedrock wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 1:25 pm but this shows Soviet planes being counted as German Recon Mission ones?!
That's not what it is.
The numbers (see attached) 23 (13+10) for Fighters and 29 (21+8) for Recon planes are created by adding up the AIR COMBAT and the leftover planes which arrive at the target it seems.

So in my previous post, the actual Recon planes were 12, then in Air Combat caused the loss of 3, shot down by 12 Soviet planes. At the target there were 12-3=9 left, which then wrongfully creates 12+9=21 as Recon planes in this part of the UI.

Attached new Setup save and result save.
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