The World at War ELO Tournament

[HarrySmith]

HarrySmith (Allies) defeats aquavita (Axis) May 1943. Italian and Germans surrender and Japan on verge. Good return of turns.

[Bavre]

HarrySmith (Allies) defeats aquavita (Allies) ...

That must have been a lot of friendly fire

[petedalby]

New ELO game begins:

HarrySmith (Allies) vs Petedalby (Axis)

Usual ELO rules + the following:
- No exp farm
- No Italian Naval out of Med before DoW
- No DoW on Japan until PH

[HarrySmith]

HarrySmith (Allies) defeats aquavita (Allies) ...

That must have been a lot of friendly fire

Yes intially I was wondering, then re read what I wrote. Certainly would of been a huge amount of friendly fire ,, I have corrected, Thanks

[petedalby]

New ELO game begins:

John B. (Axis) vs petedalby (Allies)

Game ends T110 with Axis resignation.

[Pekkavilamoura]

New ELO begins:
ElvisJJonesRambo Axis vs. Pekkavilamoura Allies.
Std ELO rules +
No exp farming, no It. Navy out of Med before DOW, no early attacks on Japan, no DEI diplo

[redrum68]

[ELO Ended]

redrum68 (axis) [WIN] v. wirkey (allies) [LOSS]

Allies surrender June 1942 after Moscow is captured by the Germans. Pretty standard game with China surrendering in April 1942 and then USSR about to surrender as all their capitals had fallen. Japan had a decent Pacific opening but primarily focused on destroying China. I still struggle to see how the USSR can stop the Germans and how China can stop the Japanese if played well. Axis air power is just oppressive especially after the weather changes.

Good game from wirkey with quick turn times.

[redrum68]

New ELO started:
redrum68 (Axis) vs. wirkey (Allies)

Rematch. Standard ELO rules.

[Bavre]

ELO started:

Jackmck (Allies) vs Bavre (Axis), rematch

ELO finished:

Bavre (Axis) defeats Jackmck (Allies)

[HARRIS45]

HARRIS45 (Axis) defeats Pekkavilamoura (Allies) 8/44 as Allies resign. Fun game. Allied invasion of Europe contained, China Lanchow and Russian Perm ready to fall. Fortunate Africa Corp. campaign probably deciding factor.

[Bavre]

ELO started:

Jackmck (Allies) vs Bavre (Axis) rerematch, again same sides.

A really persistent opponent, I must say. So Fritz get ze Panzer, here we go again...

[ElvisJJonesRambo]

[WIN} ElvisJJonesRambo (Axis) vs Helmseye (Allies) --- Nasty ground advances by both German and Japanese ground forces. France, and North Afrika rolled. Chinese taking a beating.

Allies didn't have much of a choice. Germans got Level 3 Tanks upgraded in July 1941. That's a joke in Russia.
Good game to my opponent. Nasty luck is death. Which I could save that luck.

[Pekkavilamoura]

ELO started:
HARRIS45 (Axis) vs. Pekkavilamoura (Allies)
Rematch

[ElvisJJonesRambo]

[LOSS] ElvisJJonesRambo (Allies) vs HarrySmith(Axis) ---Americans decided to put money into Submarines and ignored cookie-cutter strategies. Decided to attack Jap relatively early. Didn't work. Caused US morale to fail. Russia doomed without Americans working harder in the West. Had an excellent Fleet Battle at Guadalcanal. Was an exchange, but Yanks lost Carriers. Spent money attack Japs.

[LordNytram]

New ELO game begins:

taffjones (Axis) vs LordNytram/martyn1simpson (Allies)

ELO games house rule are

No Italian Navy outside the Med before they join the war (Transports to re-enforce East Afrika are allowed) but not garrisons in transport ships to scout for the KM

No playing the Game for the UK to DoW on Japan before December 41

[HarrySmith]

[LOSS] ElvisJJonesRambo (Allies) vs HarrySmith(Axis) ---Americans decided to put money into Submarines and ignored cookie-cutter strategies. Decided to attack Jap relatively early. Didn't work. Caused US morale to fail. Russia doomed without Americans working harder in the West. Had an excellent Fleet Battle at Guadalcanal. Was an exchange, but Yanks lost Carriers. Spent money attack Japs.

It was a tough, hard fought game, with some excellent battles on a number of fronts. A great competitor to play.

[ElvisJJonesRambo]

I was trying to be tricky, wanted to surprise you in the Pacific with the super-subs, but I failed to execute properly. I got in a hurry. Losing the Carriers before all the subs were ready, was too much of a gamble. Hawaii caused me to bring Marines to the Pacific, instead of North Africa, cost Europe a year of time. The naval battle at Guadalcanal was insane. You got my 3-carriers, I stayed one turn too long, which gave you the ability to Tora, Tora, Tora. I was baiting you in. American counter-attack hit your surface ships hard. But all I needed to do was wait until, those fresh shinny Level #3 subs sail 2 turns. Impatience cost me. American morale kept dropping, even thought I got Hawaii back. Operation Pacific Swarm, was mistake #2. More impatience. Needed to give FDR and the folks back home a quick victory. I open up a footing on mainland North Japan, took Pusan, Taiwan, and Manilla was great. Problem, major problem: Should have been used to capture Guam, Solomon Islands and Wake sooner, so US morale would quit dropping 1% per turn. Hey, at least the Chinese were happy. Original borders plus more were taken. DEI was subdued, raided, but Batavia was still yours. Hurts morale. Japans were a cornered, but not finished off in 1943.

Mistake #3 was engaging Luftwaffe while Patton had embarked, stupid. I fought 3 turns without a leader, the experience you had was wearing RAF in England. Plus, I failed to finish of Kreigsmarine hitting Murmansk. Uboats had been dealt with, but not a couple surface ships. You also did well, raiding w/ Jap subs, not once, but twice to Middle East to my surprise. You must have built extra subs yourself? Egypt has to be the biggest soak of MMPs for both sides. Was the only way to get Russia some help at the time. I left too much Airpower in England, got cheap, didn't want to spend Operand MMPs to finished the job at Tobruk. Imbalance strategy by Western Allies. British had Bombers/Tactical, but fighter pilots died unexperienced.

The Russians actually played well They were worn down in 1944. That late Spring attack you had North of Stalingrad was deadly. Moscow and Leningrad had decent forts. You were smart to go Caucasus Oil.

Patton failed. Had him waiting in England, not directing traffic in North Africa. Yes, we can battle another time. I need to cool-off from this game, and

[HARRIS45]

HARRIS45 (Allies) defeats Old Shane (Axis) Axis resigns. 2/44 Fun game. Axis collapsing on all fronts.

[HarrySmith]

I was trying to be tricky, wanted to surprise you in the Pacific with the super-subs, but I failed to execute properly. I got in a hurry. Losing the Carriers before all the subs were ready, was too much of a gamble. Hawaii caused me to bring Marines to the Pacific, instead of North Africa, cost Europe a year of time. The naval battle at Guadalcanal was insane. You got my 3-carriers, I stayed one turn too long, which gave you the ability to Tora, Tora, Tora. I was baiting you in. American counter-attack hit your surface ships hard. But all I needed to do was wait until, those fresh shinny Level #3 subs sail 2 turns. Impatience cost me. American morale kept dropping, even thought I got Hawaii back. Operation Pacific Swarm, was mistake #2. More impatience. Needed to give FDR and the folks back home a quick victory. I open up a footing on mainland North Japan, took Pusan, Taiwan, and Manilla was great. Problem, major problem: Should have been used to capture Guam, Solomon Islands and Wake sooner, so US morale would quit dropping 1% per turn. Hey, at least the Chinese were happy. Original borders plus more were taken. DEI was subdued, raided, but Batavia was still yours. Hurts morale. Japans were a cornered, but not finished off in 1943.

Mistake #3 was engaging Luftwaffe while Patton had embarked, stupid. I fought 3 turns without a leader, the experience you had was wearing RAF in England. Plus, I failed to finish of Kreigsmarine hitting Murmansk. Uboats had been dealt with, but not a couple surface ships. You also did well, raiding w/ Jap subs, not once, but twice to Middle East to my surprise. You must have built extra subs yourself? Egypt has to be the biggest soak of MMPs for both sides. Was the only way to get Russia some help at the time. I left too much Airpower in England, got cheap, didn't want to spend Operand MMPs to finished the job at Tobruk. Imbalance strategy by Western Allies. British had Bombers/Tactical, but fighter pilots died unexperienced.

The Russians actually played well They were worn down in 1944. That late Spring attack you had North of Stalingrad was deadly. Moscow and Leningrad had decent forts. You were smart to go Caucasus Oil.

Patton failed. Had him waiting in England, not directing traffic in North Africa. Yes, we can battle another time. I need to cool-off from this game, and

Yes I made mistakes too , but yes i did build 2 extra Jap subs. Your tactic of cutting off convoys with those upgraded level 3 subs worked extremely well. Cutting off all those mmps which is why Japan started falling apart. Attacking those subs seemed impossibly hard, as they dove with no damage most of the time. I agree waiting for the subs would of changed things in the fleet battle. I was in a position to strike first which is always an advantage and paid off. Yes generally with the luftwaffe you were taking 50 % to double my losses as I was guessing not a good rated HQ.
Russia was a good battle but after recovering from the winter strike in Jan 43 i made good gains and could see the writing on the wall as your unit tally dropped.
Japan was left to Manchuria and Vladivostok, DEI and most Japan. Yes not going after Guam and Wake the US morale was around 50%. I failed in China to keep up the attack to try to avoid US mobil, this I feel was a mistake as in the end I had to rush my attack anyway.
Overall I felt a very good, well fought competitive game. Very enjoyable to play

[firsteds]

ELO game completed:

Firsteds (Allies) defeated Aquavita (Axis). Good friendly fast game. Axis got a bit bogged down in China.

We were playing standard ELO plus no diplo in DEI.