The Red Bloodbath (Sickle and Hammer) - HLYA (Soviet) vs JasonBroomer (Axis)

[Shupov]

Well, if it's an exploit the cat is out of the bag. Please tell 2x3 how it is done so they can fix it.

[Shupov]

Based on the excellent explanation in M60's current thread, I now trust these high experience levels were legitimately obtained through combat, or initial settings from a later war scenario like StB.

[HardLuckYetAgain]

Based on the excellent explanation in M60's current thread, I now trust these high experience levels were legitimately obtained through combat, or initial settings from a later war scenario like StB.

I want to grow up to be just like M60

[HardLuckYetAgain]

JB has turn 8 now. I have decided to wait on updating the AAR for a couple of reasons .

Have a nice weekend!

[HardLuckYetAgain]

After a tumultuous ordeal for Jason Broomer on saving the game to the server after a few tries only to find that the file had become corrupted. Joel Billings was able to get Jason Broomer the start of his turn 8 which after going through the turn, I believe 3 times, Jason Broomer was able to finally finish turn 8. I commend Jason Broomer for keeping his turn to the general amount of losses he did the first time through. Jason is a man of Honor, although I was expecting the worst.

[HardLuckYetAgain]

Turn 3 was submitted to Jasonbroomer about two hours ago. I have to say I find it frightfully painful dealing with the Corps HQ's of the Soviets. Maybe in my game with K62 with the OB changes I will do a walk through of my soviet first turn of every single unit with commentary . Hmmmmm that would be a nightmare indeed!!!! The one for Germany took me forever, only to get trashed on in the end. At least it is still going strong helping people out in the game. (it was locked around 2,500ish post. As of today it is at 13,627.



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I just don't know how helpful a Soviet walktrough would be since there would be so many variables

Since August this thread has gained another 4k views. Seems to be useful, I guess ;-P

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[HardLuckYetAgain]

Turn 1

End of Turn Notes

I evacuated EVERY single factory on the map. Yup, you heard me correctly, "I evacuated EVERY single factory on the map, that I believe will be overrun by the Germans in later turns, on turn 1. I used to do this in WITE1 and doing it here in this game. Not only am I going to fight open TB's with every Tom, Dick, and Harry from the Open TB's but I am going to do it with fewer Airplanes, tanks, and other misc equipment until those factories come back online.

I plan on defending Leningrad and Moscow at all costs. The Baltic countries to a lesser degree. Everything else will be given away at wholesale prices, $0.0.

[HardLuckYetAgain]

Turn 1

End of Turn North

Here is my defense of Leningrad. Will see how far JB pushes forward here. I swamp the road with squatters circled.

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[HardLuckYetAgain]

Turn 1

End of Turn Center

I have always loved the VL area with a yellow box highlighting the area. In WITE2 the Soviets never seem to have adequate units for this area, at least to my taste. In my opinion, this area is a gold mine for both sides. I will always take this area if given the chance.


Light defense around Smolensk. Pushed most units towards Leningrad first.

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[HardLuckYetAgain]

Turn 1

End of Turn Gomel

Nothing much in the area.

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Turn 1

End of Turn Kiev

Nothing much in the area

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Turn 1

End of Turn Lvov


final Lvov

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[HardLuckYetAgain]

Turn 1

End of Turn

Opened

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Turn 1

End of Turn Western

can't open at all. Doomed to death.

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Turn 1

End of Turn North

Just recapping all the pockets shown way back at the opening of the AAR. Boring but oh well.

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[HardLuckYetAgain]

Now for something not so boring from the future Turn 8 Soviet. I will just post this one snapshot and update some more when I have a few minutes. I am almost done with turn 8 Soviet to send back to JB.

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[HardLuckYetAgain]

Got to love this one

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[Beethoven1]

Since August this thread has gained another 4k views. Seems to be useful, I guess ;-P

It is more than that if you count my offline copy.

I just don't know how helpful a Soviet walktrough would be since there would be so many variables

At least as far as I am concerned, I don't think it is really possible to do in the same way. The main bit that is a bit complicated is figuring out where to rail which units so that the most are able to unload in the same turn, but that is not too bad once you get used to it. Axis turn 1 is unique in that it is a set piece, whereas with Soviet turn 1 you are already responding to a varying situation.

[jasonbroomer]

A few pointers from the Axis side of things

Firstly, a boo-boo on the northern pocket almost allowed an exit route

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I didn't think that a soviet unit could break this but HLYA came perilously close. Otherwise, I was pretty pleased with my opening which came close to perfect. So on turn 2, we clear away the spam on the Pskov road

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Actually this is a good Soviet tactic as it destroys all the rails and obliges the Axis to use an FBD on this important rail line.

We also make good use of morale 81+ units to flip hexes by road (2 MPs per hex rather than 3)

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and take advantage of the clear Land Bridge to secure real estate cheaply

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Unfortunately we screw up our positioning to leave a motorised regiment exposed in a wood 3 hexes west of Smolensk. Oh well, not the end of the world.

[jasonbroomer]

In the south we begin to notice the absence of Soviet troops,

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While the Roms get rotten MP allocations, despite been placed on supply 4, so some units of the southern front will get away

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