What can we learn from the Houthis' successful ASBM attack?

[blu3s]

Regarding this topic

https://youtu.be/e6PeA_Ixkz8?si=50T6HQeFGaLTsaNU

[thewood1]

It took all of two-minutes to find the debunking of the Houthi display of some of the missiles shown earlier in the thread.

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/pol ... se-options

[Sanyr1310]

Again, US Central Command again reported an anti-ship ballistic missile attack by the Houthis. This time, however, the USS Laboon successfully intercepted all three ASBMs

In theory, such an ASBM possessed by the Houthis should not have the ability to maneuver more aggressively, and the terminal speed (according to some sources) may only be Mach 2-3, which should not be a difficult target for Aegis ships with basic bmd capability.

[thewood1]

Again, a little skepticism considering the defined land attack missiles being fired. Either someone is misclassifying them or the Houthis don't have enough BMs to engage successfully.

Here's an example of the reporting...

https://www.foxnews.com/world/navy-uses ... is-red-sea

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[Blast33]

It took all of two-minutes to find the debunking of the Houthi display of some of the missiles shown earlier in the thread.

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/pol ... se-options

Yes (at least) one missile was fake. But one was not.
In the attached article it is stated that they do indeed have ASBM.

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[Blast33]

USS GRAVELY shoots down two anti-ship ballistic missiles while responding to Houthi attack on merchant vessel.

Today at approximately 8:30 p.m. (Sanaa time), the container ship MAERSK HANGZHOU reported that they were struck by a missile while transiting the Southern Red Sea. The Singapore-flagged, Denmark-owned/operated container ship requested assistance, and the USS GRAVELY (DDG 107) and USS LABOON (DDG 58) have responded to the ship. The vessel is reportedly seaworthy and there are no reported injuries.

While responding, the USS GRAVELY shot down two anti-ship ballistic missiles fired from Houthi-controlled areas in Yemen toward the ships.

This is the 23rd illegal attack by the Houthis on international shipping since Nov. 19.
That makes it three separate DDG-51 class ships #AEGIS with ASBM kills.
https://twitter.com/CENTCOM/status/1741259817602429357

[Sanyr1310]

USS GRAVELY shoots down two anti-ship ballistic missiles while responding to Houthi attack on merchant vessel.

Today at approximately 8:30 p.m. (Sanaa time), the container ship MAERSK HANGZHOU reported that they were struck by a missile while transiting the Southern Red Sea. The Singapore-flagged, Denmark-owned/operated container ship requested assistance, and the USS GRAVELY (DDG 107) and USS LABOON (DDG 58) have responded to the ship. The vessel is reportedly seaworthy and there are no reported injuries.

While responding, the USS GRAVELY shot down two anti-ship ballistic missiles fired from Houthi-controlled areas in Yemen toward the ships.

This is the 23rd illegal attack by the Houthis on international shipping since Nov. 19.
That makes it three separate DDG-51 class ships #AEGIS with ASBM kills.
https://twitter.com/CENTCOM/status/1741259817602429357

I'm thinking that maybe the CMO should at least redefine the type and speed of the Fateh-110 series. I suspect that maybe they are closer to a large rocket that follows a trajectory (like PCH-191, PrSM, KN-09).

Do not have/have weak terminal maneuvers and much lower speeds than reentry warheads (as I mentioned in my previous reply), making these missiles easier to intercept by Aegis. And, as we have seen with each intercept, the Houthis' ASBM projectile volume is too small to allow us to observe the maximum limits of the Aegis system.

[Dimitris]

For DB changes please submit a request here: https://github.com/PygmalionOfCyprus/cm ... ts/issues/

[Tcao]

There are several sources claimed that Houthis has an Anti-ship version of Qaher (which is a copy of HQ-2/SA-2)

Muhit AShBM

https://vocal.media/serve/brilliant-the ... l-guidance

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/sec ... add7220000

https://en.ypagency.net/273250

https://app.max-security.com/yemen-anal ... -of-yemen/

[thewood1]

I've see those reports. The flight profile I saw barely makes it ballistic. Kind of a hybrid cruise missile and BM.

[SeaQueen]

Yes (at least) one missile was fake. But one was not.
In the attached article it is stated that they do indeed have ASBM.

The observation of fakes does not preclude the existence of real weapons. It does suggest there exist decoys, however.

[thewood1]

But it does follow a Iranian pattern of attempting to obfuscate whats real and what isn't. Not a bad strategy if not so obvious.

[Sanyr1310]

Update:

After several successful interceptions, the U.S. Navy's air defense network appears to have once again been breached by the Houthi ASBMs. Because this time, USCENTCOM did not directly say that the targets were successfully intercepted.

[Tcao]

So?
an interception didn't happen might be caused by
1)Air Defense system failure
2)Impact Zone is far away from the air defense system, outside its DLZ
3)impact zone seems to be somewhere harmless, so the Air defense system decide to do not engage this target.

[Sanyr1310]

So?
an interception didn't happen might be caused by
1)Air Defense system failure
2)Impact Zone is far away from the air defense system, outside its DLZ
3)impact zone seems to be somewhere harmless, so the Air defense system decide to do not engage this target.

Just update the news and state the facts.

[thewood1]

You are definitely posting news. Not so sure on facts...more opinions.

[Sanyr1310]

You are definitely posting news. Not so sure on facts...more opinions.

The fact is: This time, US Navy didn't intercept the ASBMs.

[Blast33]

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[thewood1]

You are definitely posting news. Not so sure on facts...more opinions.

The fact is: This time, US Navy didn't intercept the ASBMs.

That might be true. But using the term breach is an opinion based on "known" facts. Using terms like that is called pushing a narrative. Its not neutral. Its the difference between saying "didn't intercept" vs "failed to intercept". As stated, they might have chosen to not intercept due a non-threatening or poor geometry trajectory. Thats a judicious decision based on economics and risk. Just like in CMO, geometry is everything in ABM engagements.

[Nikel]

Another link.

https://www.iiss.org/online-analysis/mi ... -the-time/