Is the RCS level of stealth fighters reasonable in the game?

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Re: Is the RCS level of stealth fighters reasonable in the game?

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So in the end this is about accusing the devs of a bias to the US?
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Re: Is the RCS level of stealth fighters reasonable in the game?

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Sanyr1310 wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:43 am So I can understand that you are reluctant to give up the super F-35 and F-22 because if you lose it, the fun you have in the game will turn into a nightmare? If that's the case, then I'm sorry to interrupt your dream.
You nailed it. You know who else really interrupts my dream, 1992 Pam Anderson. I can't even have the falling dream without her showing up.
I and others didn't try to prove anything with the DCS data, because DCS is a flight simulation software that focuses on flight simulation. I know what you mean, you think I "missed the point" and "wanted to strengthen the Chinese unit". Note that first of all, I also mentioned the problems with the Su-57 and the KF-21, and it can be said that in the CMO, except for the US units, it seems that every other country's units have different degrees of weakness than the US units. Second, I don't think I'm missing too much of the point, because the game's simulation involves multiple areas of confrontation, and when the dev team is faced with data that they don't have access to, it makes sense that they will take some "non-discriminatory" measures (such as dividing sensor performance by technology age level), but why not do it in more places?
Do the homework and see what happens. Why are you so reluctant to do this if this is so important to you?
The production team has made it clear in the CPE simulation aircraft RCS web link posted above: they have adopted the results of professional and credible open source simulation. In addition to consulting with other professionals, they are willing to let CPE users DIY build a more detailed RCS simulation, and this more detailed simulation brings the RCS data from a more macro perspective closer to the "average" rather than the "optimal value." Bringing this "trend"/" overall performance "into the commercial version is no problem at all.
You'll likely understand the nuances of db edit less than my sarcasm unless you have access to see it. I hope that happens one day and that you get what you want. I do support your initial quibble in terms of how to deal with certain bands. Just not strongly anymore due to your posts.

Mike
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Re: Is the RCS level of stealth fighters reasonable in the game?

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thewood1 wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:37 am So in the end this is about accusing the devs of a bias to the US?
Modifying the RCS data for the F-35 and F-22 is so simple that it can be done by pasting a reddit link.
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Re: Is the RCS level of stealth fighters reasonable in the game?

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BDukes wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:55 pm
Sanyr1310 wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:43 am So I can understand that you are reluctant to give up the super F-35 and F-22 because if you lose it, the fun you have in the game will turn into a nightmare? If that's the case, then I'm sorry to interrupt your dream.
You nailed it. You know who else really interrupts my dream, 1992 Pam Anderson. I can't even have the falling dream without her showing up.
I and others didn't try to prove anything with the DCS data, because DCS is a flight simulation software that focuses on flight simulation. I know what you mean, you think I "missed the point" and "wanted to strengthen the Chinese unit". Note that first of all, I also mentioned the problems with the Su-57 and the KF-21, and it can be said that in the CMO, except for the US units, it seems that every other country's units have different degrees of weakness than the US units. Second, I don't think I'm missing too much of the point, because the game's simulation involves multiple areas of confrontation, and when the dev team is faced with data that they don't have access to, it makes sense that they will take some "non-discriminatory" measures (such as dividing sensor performance by technology age level), but why not do it in more places?
Do the homework and see what happens. Why are you so reluctant to do this if this is so important to you?
The production team has made it clear in the CPE simulation aircraft RCS web link posted above: they have adopted the results of professional and credible open source simulation. In addition to consulting with other professionals, they are willing to let CPE users DIY build a more detailed RCS simulation, and this more detailed simulation brings the RCS data from a more macro perspective closer to the "average" rather than the "optimal value." Bringing this "trend"/" overall performance "into the commercial version is no problem at all.
You'll likely understand the nuances of db edit less than my sarcasm unless you have access to see it. I hope that happens one day and that you get what you want. I do support your initial quibble in terms of how to deal with certain bands. Just not strongly anymore due to your posts.

Mike
Okay, well, there's nothing else I can say. Let the dev team decide what the future holds.
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Re: Is the RCS level of stealth fighters reasonable in the game?

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Since you guys feel that I am exporting biased information in favor of China and Russia, then I have to stop replying on this topic, I also think I have expressed enough.

Maybe my opinion is so sharp that it makes you feel uncomfortable or even biased, but it is also a way to reflect on something that you may not have thought about before through different opinions. This is beneficial.

Truth becomes clearer the more it is debated. In fact, I really enjoy the process of exchanging ideas and brainstorming with you. Honestly, it's great!

I just love this game as much as anyone and want it to get better.
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Re: Is the RCS level of stealth fighters reasonable in the game?

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Sanyr1310 wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:58 pm Since you guys feel that I am exporting biased information in favor of China and Russia, then I have to stop replying on this topic, I also think I have expressed enough.

Maybe my opinion is so sharp that it makes you feel uncomfortable or even biased, but it is also a way to reflect on something that you may not have thought about before through different opinions. This is beneficial.

Truth becomes clearer the more it is debated. In fact, I really enjoy the process of exchanging ideas and brainstorming with you. Honestly, it's great!

I just love this game as much as anyone and want it to get better.
Great. Thanks!

M
" You have to be realistic about these things." ~Logan Ninefingers
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