Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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How does one overcome the problem of overcrowding at the Army commands because there are just too many Corps that need attachment.

I can't figure out how to remain within the Command Level number for Army commands.
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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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Personally I usually disband some corps.
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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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Structure your command chain so that the important units have a good command.
So army groups have a few armies (3-4) which have a few corps (3-4) which are all within command limits.
Surplus armies/corps can then be assigned directly to army group or OKH or allied command, all still within command limits.
Best to check it each turn at the end of your move, it is particularly bad if assault HQs are above limit.
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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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So, it is a matter of shuffling things around a bit. The Assault Armies must be within Command Level or they lose the benefits of being an Assault Army.

Disbanding Corps commands works? I'll have to give that more thought.

Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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To make sure I understand: you're at maximum army HQ command limits, but not corps?
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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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Disbanding Corps commands works? I'll have to give that more thought.
Disbanding a corps will allocate their subordinate units to the next level up, so it would not help. HQs do not take up command points on their own.
The only reason I can think of to disband HQs would be to recover their manpower if their command capacity were no longer needed - which will happen if Germany it on it's last legs.
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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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Jango32 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:52 pm To make sure I understand: you're at maximum army HQ command limits, but not corps?
The problem is Maximum HQ command limits for Army Group, Army and Corps levels. As such, if that Army Group sector of the front is being pressured by the Soviet, there's no good way to send more Divisions to the sector in order to stop the enemy Offensive.

The only way to reinforce the front that I've figured out so far is to do a "whole front" shuffling around of Armies and Corps creatively for the purpose of establishing some Command Limit space that will fit some reinforcing Divisions for the distressed Army Group sector.

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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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Sorry. I didn't read your question closely enough. I thought you were asking what to do with excess corps.

I see here most people seem to use them all. But I usually disband 4 Infantry corps in the first year or so because I don't find I need them all. So why not disband them and save some trucks? You also get some more later.

Anyway that's what I do and I've never found that I missed them.
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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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For further clarification. I play against the AI and restrict myself from using corps not attached to an Army.
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https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 0#p5079280
maybe this thread contains something for you.
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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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Make sure your Assualt Armies are at max capicity and not 1 point over.

Mot units that are attached to a Corp that has Panzer or Mot in its title get some advantage I think. Many support units are motorised.

I place any spare Corp HQs on an NSS and attach refitting units. Especially those who seem to miss out on refitting.
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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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Wiedrock wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:39 am https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 0#p5079280
maybe this thread contains something for you.
Most excellent and on-point! Thank you. That's a beautyful thread.

Thanks to all for the helpful suggestions.
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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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Dang it. It's Nov 42 and the 11th Army command unit disappeared and is replaced by AG Don. Now I have the same problem of not being able to fabricate chain of command structures without exceeding Command Capacity.

I've read the Manual and I conclude that, if Command Capacity overload is unavoidable, it's better to keep the Corps HQs within Command Capacity and overload the Army and/or Army Group levels.

Am I thinking correctly here?
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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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I would keep everything within command capacity at all times.
If this means assigning units to allied command or corps directly to OKH/Army group then do that.
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Re: Issue: Not enough Army Commands for German Army

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Oh boy, assign German Corps to Rumanian or Hungarian Armies. OK. Thanks for the tip. I'll do that.
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