Interface parts disagree as to where the General is located

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Interface parts disagree as to where the General is located

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Build version: 1.2.1.4 Beta
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The info panel for General Xo Banasa says that he’s located at Aloreun 4 (my Capital). So that’s location #1: Aloreun 4. The selection panel for the Invaders 1 fleet shows the General’s icon, indicating that he’s on-bard. The problem is that the fleet is far away from Aloreun 4 (see screenshots). So that’s location #2.

And the tooltip/small info panel shown when hovering above the General’s icon in the fleet’s selection panel agrees with the General’s info panel, also indicating that he is at the Capital (Aloreun 4; location #1).

So not only different parts of the interface say different things, but the same interface element - the selection panel - contradicts itself! :shock: One part of it indicates that the General is at the Capital, and another part of the selection panel indicates that the General is aboard the fleet, which is at a great distance away from the Capital.

I wonder... Did I missed the addition of a new bi-location ability for Generals in the last beta? :mrgreen:

I'm not quite sure where the General is, actually. Looking at the General’s info panel, more specifically at the drop-down list for location to transfer him too, it looks as though he is indeed at Aloreun 4. But then, why does he show in the fleet’s selection panel?

I can only imagine how confusing that is for a new player!

Now the screenshots. Here’s the General’s info panel:

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Here’s the fleet’s selection panel, with the General’s tooltip/small info panel shown when hovering above the General’s icon in the fleet’s selection panel. Indicating that the General is aboard the fleet, and that he’s located at the Capital. Despite the fact that the fleet is far away.

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And here’s an overview of the fleet’s current location in respect to the Capital (Aloreun 4):

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Re: Interface parts disagree as to where the General is located

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If you click on Aloreun 4, do you see him among its Troops?
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Re: Interface parts disagree as to where the General is located

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He does show in the capital. So genuine bi-location... or a lying interface!
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Re: Interface parts disagree as to where the General is located

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That's so weird. What happened when you invaded? Did his location get fixed? Did it bug out again when you reloaded him on a transport?
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Re: Interface parts disagree as to where the General is located

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To be honest, I didn't pay attention. At that point, I had 4 Generals on that fleet, and a lot was going on in the game (at war with the Gizureans and the Dhayuts). But I've checked Xo Banasa's events in its info panel, and none refer to the planet where the invasion was done. Instead they refer to stuff going on at the capital. So it looks as if he's at the capital, and not on the fleet.

Why he shows as being on the fleet? Looks like a bug to me.

But at my next invasion, I'll pay closer attention as to which Generals will be on the planet after the invasion. And I'll let you (and the Devs) know.
- Imagine how confusing it is to a new player!
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Re: Interface parts disagree as to where the General is located

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Here’s my follow-up.

Currently invading Eggoowoti, another Gizurean colony. One of the invading fleet is *Invaders 1*, and the fleet’s info panel still shows General Xo Banasa as being part of the fleet (see screenshots below). But, he’s not one of the Generals that have landed on Eggoowoti to invade it. So, it does look like the fleet’s selection and info panels are lying.

But it’s worst than that: there are Generals that show as being at three locations simultaneously! So it’s not only a case of bi-location, it’s two cases of tri-locations! :shock:

One the invasion has started, and the troops and Generals have landed on Eggoowoti, two of the Generals show as being simultaneously on the planet, aboard Invaders 1 AND Invaders 2!

These two Generals are:

- Jaka Hektor
- Vos Gokal

Here’s a screenshot of the troop report once the invasion has started:

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Here’s Invaders 1 info panel AFTER the invasion has started:

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And here’s Invaders 2 info panel:

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So, to recapitulate:

- One General that is at the Capital shows as being aboard a fleet
- Two Generals shows as being aboard two fleets simultaneously while, at the same time, being on the planet being invaded.

Lastly, all this made me notice something to which I had not paid attention to before: once the troops have landed on the colony to invade, they show in the invaded colony and they don’t show anymore in the fleet’s selection panel. But the Generals still do show at both places (the fleet AND the invaded colony).

Might be confusing to new players...

It looks to me as though that if the fleet’s selection panel reflect the fact that the troops have landed for the invasion, it should also reflect the fact that the Generals have landed.

Here's the save file:
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- Imagine how confusing it is to a new player!
- Tedious is the opposite of fun
- "The welfare of the people…has always been the alibi of tyrants…giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience." – Albert Camus
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