FIRST TOURNAMENT (BETA)

[SgtZdog]

Got a no-show as an opponent, great!

Thinking about this, is there a possibility that no-shows could be barred from participating in future tournaments?

Not at the current time, though the Matrix tournament system does support ELO rating, so future tournaments will probably have that turned on, which will push non-participants to the bottom of tournaments afterward.

[SgtZdog]

How does the puntuation work? I'm seeing that both my opponent and I have the same score, but this is not possible as I've lost the first game (thoroughly ) and we are in the middle of the second one.

Scores don't seem to be working correctly, I actually noticed that when I looked at the scores on Saturday and they seemed suspicious, thank you for bringing this up and confirming. It looks like the game isn't properly making sure the scores get accredited to the proper players. I'll get that fixed this week, but no promises on being able to save the scores for this round.

I just submitted my first turns with Searry (I.e., within the last 30 minutes) and I was surprised to see that we already have scores. Are the score updated live? What do these numbers represent?

100 points for inflicting sudden death on the enemy (cause 70% casualties)
100 points for playing the scenario all the way to a conclusion (either out of time or a player has suffered sudden death)
100 points for each star achieved in their rating beyond the first (1-7 stars, so 0-600 points)
1 point for each percentage point they have of the scenario victory points (this serves as our tiebreaker between players who achieve the same star rating)
This gives us a theoretical max score of 900 points (This would require achieving all objectives and suffering virtually no losses, so unlikely).
Your scores (for both players) are updated every time you upload and will hold bar any corrections made by the tournament system for non-participation.

What "Expires" in round description means ? Time to start the round or the time when the whole round ends (i.e. all turns must be finished by then) ?

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That is when the end of the round is and when you should have completed both of your games by. (I'll note you can play both games simultaneously and should not wait for one to finish before starting the other.)

[DukeBannon]

Searry and I finished a round where I played the Sovs. There were a couple of notable items when I viewed the map. First, it showed me the NATO results rather than the Sovs. I was able to see my results when I checked the checkbox to see the opponents' results. This is a bit confusing and wish it showed my results first. Secondly, I was unable to see the last turn play. It opened with the final map and that's it. I would have liked to watch that last turn.

Let me know if this is not the right place for this feedback.

[SgtZdog]

Searry and I finished a round where I played the Sovs. There were a couple of notable items when I viewed the map. First, it showed me the NATO results rather than the Sovs. I was able to see my results when I checked the checkbox to see the opponents' results. This is a bit confusing and wish it showed my results first. Secondly, I was unable to see the last turn play. It opened with the final map and that's it. I would have liked to watch that last turn.

Let me know if this is not the right place for this feedback.

This is a fine place to leave that feedback. Created as tickets FPSS-5271 and FPSS-5272 respectively. You can probably still view the feedback if you click

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Game->Replay Previous Turn Resolution

[DukeBannon]

Searry and I finished a round where I played the Sovs. There were a couple of notable items when I viewed the map. First, it showed me the NATO results rather than the Sovs. I was able to see my results when I checked the checkbox to see the opponents' results. This is a bit confusing and wish it showed my results first. Secondly, I was unable to see the last turn play. It opened with the final map and that's it. I would have liked to watch that last turn.

Let me know if this is not the right place for this feedback.

This is a fine place to leave that feedback. Created as tickets FPSS-5271 and FPSS-5272 respectively. You can probably still view the feedback if you click

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Game->Replay Previous Turn Resolution

Clearly I must've been asleep yesterday when I looked for a command like that! Thanks for pointing that out.

[Niedowidek_slith]

100 points for inflicting sudden death on the enemy (cause 70% casualties)
100 points for playing the scenario all the way to a conclusion (either out of time or a player has suffered sudden death)
100 points for each star achieved in their rating beyond the first (1-7 stars, so 0-600 points)
1 point for each percentage point they have of the scenario victory points (this serves as our tiebreaker between players who achieve the same star rating)
This gives us a theoretical max score of 900 points (This would require achieving all objectives and suffering virtually no losses, so unlikely).
Your scores (for both players) are updated every time you upload and will hold bar any corrections made by the tournament system for non-participation.

What "Expires" in round description means ? Time to start the round or the time when the whole round ends (i.e. all turns must be finished by then) ?

expires.jpg

That is when the end of the round is and when you should have completed both of your games by. (I'll note you can play both games simultaneously and should not wait for one to finish before starting the other.)

What about situation when time expires before battle is concluded ?

There are different cases of this.

1) One player responds quickly e.g. within few hours, the other one takes three days to make a move. Obviously the second is guilty of scenario not having been concluded in time.
2) A player plays quickly until realizing he/she won't win. Then stops. Frustrating situation not uncommon in turn-based games (chess included)

[SgtZdog]

What about situation when time expires before battle is concluded ?

There are different cases of this.

1) One player responds quickly e.g. within few hours, the other one takes three days to make a move. Obviously the second is guilty of scenario not having been concluded in time.
2) A player plays quickly until realizing he/she won't win. Then stops. Frustrating situation not uncommon in turn-based games (chess included)

This depends a bit. If not enough uploads where control has passed to the other player have passed then the score will shift toward the buy value toward the person who took less chess clock time. If enough have happened though the scores will stand as is. If *really* not enough have elapsed it will give the full buy value to the more active player and the other player may even be dropped from the tournament altogether.

So in both cases, it depends on how far in you do get. However, I tried to through the structure of the score make it so that you can almost always get points by continuing to play even a losing situation through getting the 100 point end of game bonus and potentially the bonus for inflicting sudden death on the enemy (even if they've inflicted sudden death on you). Note, this is different from how the score will show up in game, where you lose the sudden death bonus if sudden death is inflicted on you (though could potentially remove it from your opponent by inflicting it on them as well if they already inflicted it on you.)

[SgtZdog]

Hey guys, quick update about the tournament. I have fixed the scoring issue, but Matrix won't be able to distribute a new build to you guys for the 2.1.4 steam beta until mid next week (they already had to rush out 2 pro builds for us this week and are off today and Monday). As such, we were able to delay the start of round 2 by a day so I can hand calculate your correct scores (I apologize, you may miss your bonus points for inflicting sudden death) that way round 2 you should get seeded against someone new.

[DukeBannon]

Searry and I just completed our second round and once again I was unable to watch the final round. SHIFT-F9 or using the menu only resulted in this message.

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[SgtZdog]

Searry and I just completed our second round and once again I was unable to watch the final round. SHIFT-F9 or using the menu only resulted in this message.

Created as JIRA ticket FPSS-5282

[DukeBannon]

I see that my opponent in this next round is one of the developers Time for me to be skooled on the proper way to play Souther Storm!

[Galahad78]

I see that my opponent in this next round is one of the developers Time for me to be skooled on the proper way to play Souther Storm!

Talking about this, is there any way of watching the entire battle from the begining (after completion, of course) without fog of war, to learn from the pros? Could it be a feature for the future?

[SgtZdog]

I see that my opponent in this next round is one of the developers Time for me to be skooled on the proper way to play Souther Storm!

I'll do my best.

Talking about this, is there any way of watching the entire battle from the begining (after completion, of course) without fog of war, to learn from the pros? Could it be a feature for the future?

We've talked about it before and I don't think it will happen soon, but I created a feature request here with ticket ID: FPSS-5288. For now I recommend watching the Slitherine streams on twitch, the youtube tutorial series, and other youtube videos like those by Tactics With Joe. That way you get a better idea not just for what decisions we're making, but also why we're making them.

[DukeBannon]

I left Souther Storm running overnight on the PBEM+++ Multiplayer screen and then this morning, when I pressed REFRESH, this error occurred. Then, when it came time to edit the image SS was going to send as a part of the error report (I didn't think you needed to see my emails), I could not edit the photo even though I have the Photos app associated with .BMP files as was indicated in the message. However, upon seeing the actual file that was going to be sent with the error report, I discovered it was a .PNG file which is also associated with the Photos app. So, in total, I am reporting three errors.

[SgtZdog]

I left Souther Storm running overnight on the PBEM+++ Multiplayer screen and then this morning, when I pressed REFRESH, this error occurred. Then, when it came time to edit the image SS was going to send as a part of the error report (I didn't think you needed to see my emails), I could not edit the photo even though I have the Photos app associated with .BMP files as was indicated in the message. However, upon seeing the actual file that was going to be sent with the error report, I discovered it was a .PNG file which is also associated with the Photos app. So, in total, I am reporting three errors.

In the future, please send us the the actual bug report, not just a screenshot of that page (you can do the save bug report and upload it here instead of sending via email). I can see that it is a bad reference error, but there's no info on that summary screen of where it is, making it useless.

Screenshot issue created as FPSS-5290

[DukeBannon]

I did and someone by the name of Rob has already replied to the bug report the game submitted via email.

[SgtZdog]

I did and someone by the name of Rob has already replied to the bug report the game submitted via email.

Rob is the head honcho, he'll get it to me or whoever needs to fix it, thanks.

[Niedowidek_slith]

I think I found a bug.

Today I wanted to leave the game without ending my turn (upload a turn in progress) and I clicked Game -> End game now (I know, stupid) and know what ? It said:
- I got tactical victory (but I ended the battle before time limit)
- The data will be uploaded to server for the last time (i.e. end of this battle for me and my opponent)
Well, I killed the app to prevent it from uploading thus ending the battle but, ekhm, it was possible to cheat in some way, wasn't it ?

[SgtZdog]

I think I found a bug.

Today I wanted to leave the game without ending my turn (upload a turn in progress) and I clicked Game -> End game now (I know, stupid) and know what ? It said:
- I got tactical victory (but I ended the battle before time limit)
- The data will be uploaded to server for the last time (i.e. end of this battle for me and my opponent)
Well, I killed the app to prevent it from uploading thus ending the battle but, ekhm, it was possible to cheat in some way, wasn't it ?

Was this during your tournament match? We only block End Game Now for tournament games.

[Niedowidek_slith]

Yes, during tournament match. I'm pretty sure I was able to click "End game now" and it worked. I'm 100% sure that I was showed star rating and "tactical victory" and on-screen message said it will the LAST PBEM++ upload to server.