T1/D1 Ground Attack results

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shgenerolas
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T1/D1 Ground Attack results

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Hi! I've been looking at other players' reports on YT and the Forum about T1/D1 Ground Attack results. Almost all of them were able to destroy more Soviet planes and suffer less losses than me. I tried different AD setups, I've tried fighters with extra fuel tanks, intensive escort, air dominance, but the results are always about the same. Could this be related to a game balance change? Why I came up with this idea: I've noticed that few years ago German players had a lot of operational losses, but now I lose almost everything in air combat in my tests.

For example here are the results when ADs are set according to the scheme proposed by @Zovs in Forum Nov 2021. Here are results of playing against Normal AI and against Challanging AI.

Normal:
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As I said: no matter how I put AD, the results are always about the same.

My question is: is it possible that at the current stage of the game such losses are normal? If yes, maybe there are some specific things that need to pay attention to?
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Re: T1/D1 Ground Attack results

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Did you watch my tutorial on how to set up the Luftwaffe T1 air directives?

If you are patient enough, there will be an additional advanced tutorial in which I compared 3 different set of air directives. It should come up in May.
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Yeh, I watched. Basically, my setup is not fundamentally different from yours.

BTW, I lose the most planes around Vilnius and around Lviv-Vinitsa, where Soviet fighters are very active (even manage fly in to my territorie).
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Re: T1/D1 Ground Attack results

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They are not terrible, I do think some of the balancing changed some results. Try eliminating some of the missions that the losses were to great. the last time I used this I change a few missions and got results of 303 planes lost 275 pilots KIA to the Soviets 3739 planes lost and 804 pilots lost. So you can improve your results. spend a couple of days making adjustments, just be sure to save a test setup file so you dont have to go through it all over again, learned that the hard way. good luck
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Re: T1/D1 Ground Attack results

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Yes, today I am experimenting with that. BTW, thanks Serge11 for the link: some AD are outdated (for example there is no Husi air base any more), but it helped to improve the results in some areas.
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Here I slightly improved the ADs offered by @Zovs: increased the escort and additionally added Air Superiority around Vilnius, around Lviv (I used useless Slovak and Hungarian fighters in this pass) and around Odesa. Results when playing against modified Hard AI (my settings - normal, AI - hard):
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