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And the long night and day is over....our Carriers Safe....our troop transports should have fully unloaded at Ningpo ( a lot of bulldozers and supply), and our armor entered Shaohing from the west! And all over the map our forces steam forward. I think 4 AR, and 6 AS make the Amoy area along with 6+ ADs. The IJN minelayers destroyed prior to laying fields at Shanghai (I am sure Iboats will deliver mines there, if any are in the pool as Japan dropped a lot of mines at the entrance of Manila). 3 ARDs should have made Luzon...

Our plan to catch the KB failed, but I think it might be very close to Wichita...what her ammo stocks looks like,or her damage from 2 Kamikazes I don't know yet. Mogami is stricken one or two hexes east of Shanghai alone, and heavily damaged.

Lots of blood in the water....and the plane losses are probably moderate to heavy....but a good day! I think Ningpo is secured! What do you think? Other than the Nagoto sinking three Fletchers....a very nice day.

Japan lost: 1 BB, 3 DD, minelayers, and most likely Mogami will go down this next day

US lost 6 Destroyers

Plus we should have gotten plenty of solid recon over the still repairing Honshu aircraft factories. ;)

Sorry for the lack of pictures....Japan sent the combat report so as to avoid synch bugs.

Pictures coming shortly....(oops maybe not...Japan won't finish the turn for awhile).
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Quite a day of action. Thank you for continuing a great AAR
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Nice to have the Hiei on the bottom along with all the minelayers. Fingers crossed for the Wichita.

Looking forward to see if those two IJN Carriers run into any more submarines.

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T Rav wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:53 pm Nice to have the Hiei on the bottom along with all the minelayers. Fingers crossed for the Wichita.

Looking forward to see if those two IJN Carriers run into any more submarines.

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I think that leaves only Nagato and Mushashi and one more in dry dock. I think.
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Gnack wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:49 pm Quite a day of action. Thank you for continuing a great AAR
thanks. :D
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I think Nagato and 2 Heavy Cruisers are at Shanghai...where they could rearm but IJN has to be low on Destroyers... Our heavies are at Ningpo (2 Fast, 2 Slow Battleships, 8 Fresh Heavy Cruisers not committed, plus ships with Deathstar and CVE task forces hiding upriver/bay of Ningpo

The KB moved north and east into a submarine nest....

The IJN SAGs moved north and west towards Shanghai...missing quite a few Allied SAGs and PT Boat Squadrons...

I think Australia turned back to Ningpo, not sure what Astoria's story is....and Witchita must be low on ammo but probably only 2-4 points of sys damage from the Kamikazes, plus flank speed damage....oh, she also got HIT by a searching naval plane. :( Hopefully fog of war.
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That's some great action! Thanks for posting all of this. His amphib TF must have dropped the troops off at Shanghai. I'd say he's still trying to fight for Ningpo and vicinity. Are you confident of LCU superiority? This could be his Guadalcanal in terms of attrition.

The DD TF that heroically poked holes in the Hiei and then was snuffed out later: Was that led by ol' Arleigh? Did he survive?

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CaptBeefheart wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:32 am That's some great action! Thanks for posting all of this. His amphib TF must have dropped the troops off at Shanghai. I'd say he's still trying to fight for Ningpo and vicinity. Are you confident of LCU superiority? This could be his Guadalcanal in terms of attrition.

The DD TF that heroically poked holes in the Hiei and then was snuffed out later: Was that led by ol' Arleigh? Did he survive?

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Nah, it was Farmer O. MacDonald in command of the Hei killers....they fought three battles, sank an MTB, the Hei losing Conway to a torpedo, then crossed the Nagato's T during the day, but lost one destroyer to another torp and the two remaining ships ate 46cm shells at 5 to 6k.....I mean it was Captain O. MacDonald. :lol: Sadly, probably gone. If you have to fight destroyers with battleships, you are better off zig zagging and going for those daytime encounters.

Burke's Destroyers were off Wenchow....and closed with Mogami and stripped her of destroyers in he early morning hours.

Chin didn't fight. Binford did....who else did I have around....Moosberger and Coward didn't see action either. Pringle did....overall, it seems like we out naval skilled the IJN fleets. I wonder if he reorganized his fleets at sea and thus missed out on having a lot of task force commanders?
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The only PT Boat encounter, those task forces all went south east paving the way for the Astoria, happened in the early dawn hours after Burke had savaged the Mogami TF, catching the Fubuki on her own, burning. Even though they didn't hit...they did cause the Fubuki to manuever causing more damage to her....

There were 3 PT Boat squadrons, this was the smallest. The Largest had 7 ships, and the other 5.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Shanghai at 94,56, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Fubuki, on fire

Allied Ships
PT-352
PT-362
PT-378
PT-497

Low visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 3,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
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Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
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Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 3,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 3,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages PT-352 at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages PT-497 at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages PT-497 at 6,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages PT-362 at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages PT-352 at 9,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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CaptBeefheart wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:32 am That's some great action! Thanks for posting all of this. His amphib TF must have dropped the troops off at Shanghai.
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After today's action, I don't think it was an amphibious task force...just bad scouting....or if it was...they veered off when Japan saw the heavy concentration of shipping and the Deathstar showing up the prior day...the plane losses for Japan were pretty high then.
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CaptBeefheart wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:32 am I'd say he's still trying to fight for Ningpo and vicinity. Are you confident of LCU superiority? This could be his Guadalcanal in terms of attrition.


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The DD defense of Ningpo is kind of like the Charge of the Tin Cans at Leyte Gulf. Sort of, kind of...

Even in a scenario 2 game, Japan's TOE make it a great defensive fighter....but they really struggle offensively. You need to meticulously go thru their units pulling out those that can fight offensively and then put them into reserve (I like 4 full Divisions) plus support artillery and your heaviest flak. Most JFBs don't do that...and in this game, there is a huge number of bypassed, out of position IJA units. So, no I am not much worried about a counter attack. I would like to see one actually, as I can inflict heavy damage and simply bypass around it again. :D

Plus, Japan needs to re-establish Naval superiority in the area....and I don't see that happening. Fresh ships keep arriving daily, and our forward repair ports just keep getting faster/better.

Our Submarine defensive umbrella is super strong, especially given the devastation among Japan's patrol craft....on the approach the IJN ships get detected, and depleted of ASW weapons, and shed op points...while after the fight the ASW weakened force and cripples are easy pickings.

The one thing that didn't happen in yesterday's fight, was our night naval bombers didn't fly the weather was so atrocious.

On Jan 2, 1944 Japan controlled Foochow....now here at the end of Jan, Foochow is almost a level 8 America runway, a huge ship repair base with half a dozen ARs, ADs, a couple of AGs, and an AGP with multiple Divisions ready for the next step forward....

The Foochow to Ningpo run is 9 hexes, but our APA and AKA can make it one day at full speed with no prior op point expenditures making reinforcement straight forward.
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Game Goal: End game as soon as possible, 3-1 VP ratio.

Strategic Bombing Goals:

Here, at the end of Jan, 1943 what should the Allies focus on with respect to strategic bombing in February? We should be able to get Ningpo up to a size 7 runway fairly quickly and ultimately level 9.

Ranges: 16 to Hiroshima, 19 to Osaka, 24 to Tokyo, and 31 to Sapporo. At present we can hit out to 29 hexes with 2 squadrons of British heavies. Most heavies are in the 16 for US and 17 for British hex range. So right now we are simply at the nuisance level....

Primary Goal: Farm strategic VP at an acceptable loss ratio, remember that each heavy bomber is 2 vp. Shoot for Firestorms at Osaka and Tokyo. I think this is the only possible way I will be able to achieve auto victory super early.

Secondary Goal: Delay Sam, reduce Frank R & Night Fighter production. Force Japan to use daytime fighters on night duty (dispersal of IJ fighter tactic).

Third Goal: Aircraft Engines and Naval Shipyards.

Our secondary and tertiary goals support achieving our primary goal.

Delay Sam might be the most important objective at present, with believe it or not, a focus on damaging Japan's night fighters. I have identified all bases that still have aircraft factories repairing and there are 10 of them and I have started recon on them... Plus there are 11 Engine factory bases. So to start with at least 4 Recon squadrons broken down into thirds.


Sometime in March Japan gets the 12cm AAA gun upgrade and a plethora of AAA units. In roughly 60 days B29s start arriving in Aden! :o Also there is a huge expansion of IJ Army fighter squadrons (they get bigger) sometime in 1944 (1st or 2nd qtr).

Our first raids on Tokyo and Osaka should be as large as possible so they won't be targeted for a bit now....rather we will be hunting and pecking at some other targets with the random targets thrown in every now and then to mask our goals and create dispersal.

I have started spreading out our recon planes from Foochow to find the still building aircraft factories....more information with the turn.

Nagasaki....since manpower is low at 11, I think a targeted strike on Japan's largest military shipyard is the top priority here....The fighters are somewhat interesting producing almost one a day each. Since Japan built both super heavy battleships, they must be slow on their CV production.
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I have a half dozen of these USN heavy bombers, and they feature one less fifty caliber, but a little greater range and Radar. Not sure if radar plays any role in ground bombing, as opposed to naval acquisition, but we will use them as part of our dedicated night bombing forces along with the British bomber fleet.

I am aiming to accomplish round the clock bombing of Osaka's manpower. I will need closer fighter bases...or the Deathstar within 10 to 12 hexes for a drop tank sweep with Corsairs. Osaka has 5000+ industry to burn with fire....that is 100,000 victory points....rinse and repeat for Tokyo and that will be 3-1 easily....I am not sure I can get firestorms on the manpower c30 bases, but I am willing to try....perhaps we will give Kejo a shot and see what happens. I also haven't seen any screenshots of firestorm damaged bases although I probably had firestorms against me when I picked up my first pbem....I remember Tokyo burning for weeks at at time....
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I have figured out the campaigns going forward to finish the game. I will start setting prep with the next turn....Not sure how Japan will be able to stop me....barring a string of disasters ( which could always happen). Think I will keep it under my hat for a bit. :D
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A few questions and considerations:
  • Do you pick up strat VPs for bombing Korea?

    Is Aden on the regular map in your scenario? Unless you have a lot of AKVs, B-29s take a long time to repair after being unloaded. Also, the pilots are fairly low level, so you'll want to get them training ASAP (and move experienced B-24/25 pilots into those birds if you can handle the clicks). In general, B-29s don't have a great sortie rate due to their service rating (maybe 7?).

    Firestorms are tough. I'd say they'd be hard to achieve in 1944. Still, good luck.

    Dispersed attacks make sense. You probably can't do much to bases beyond Tokyo, but it doesn't hurt to hit them now and then with your long-range Liberators to keep CAP and AAA dispersed.

    You may need to land on Kyushu to rack up enough points for a 3:1. You might want to start prepping. Plus, Nagasaki should be worth 336 yard points to you :D . If you don't consider it gamey, you might load up Japan and see when they get all of those independent brigades. You'd obviously want to get ahead of that curve.
Best of luck.

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Sitrep:

The IJN SAGs, all around 6 ships, are at Shanghai...recon coming back in on Honshu and of course Osaka is a great target. I definitely don't like the Frances night fighter, and even the Irving...Frank, George and the A6M8 plus that is probably the only Emily factory Japan has. So our priority targets will be first attack: manpower just to take advantage of the light defense, after that the night fighters. Right now can only hit it with 1/2 payload from two 12 plane squadrons.


That is two single ship task forces SE of Shanghai....one damaged CA and the damaged Fubuki.
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Mogami is heavily damaged and alone SE of Shanghai, and Aoba is at Shanghai and probably only took a glancing torp hit, the Soryu of course did not go down.
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Blundered into two different CAP traps....our sweeper showed up after the bombers.
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CaptBeefheart wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:28 am A few questions and considerations:
  • Do you pick up strat VPs for bombing Korea?

    Is Aden on the regular map in your scenario? Unless you have a lot of AKVs, B-29s take a long time to repair after being unloaded. Also, the pilots are fairly low level, so you'll want to get them training ASAP (and move experienced B-24/25 pilots into those birds if you can handle the clicks). In general, B-29s don't have a great sortie rate due to their service rating (maybe 7?).

    Firestorms are tough. I'd say they'd be hard to achieve in 1944. Still, good luck.

    Dispersed attacks make sense. You probably can't do much to bases beyond Tokyo, but it doesn't hurt to hit them now and then with your long-range Liberators to keep CAP and AAA dispersed.

    You may need to land on Kyushu to rack up enough points for a 3:1. You might want to start prepping. Plus, Nagasaki should be worth 336 yard points to you :D . If you don't consider it gamey, you might load up Japan and see when they get all of those independent brigades. You'd obviously want to get ahead of that curve.
Best of luck.

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No sVP for bombing Korea.

Aden is off map...I figured I need a robust Army bomber training program.

I have a grasp of some of the major things Japan goes thru...but not specific to this mod. I prefer to be surprised...
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Lowpe wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:40 pm I am aiming to accomplish round the clock bombing of Osaka's manpower. I will need closer fighter bases...or the Deathstar within 10 to 12 hexes for a drop tank sweep with Corsairs. Osaka has 5000+ industry to burn with fire....that is 100,000 victory points....rinse and repeat for Tokyo and that will be 3-1 easily....I am not sure I can get firestorms on the manpower c30 bases, but I am willing to try....perhaps we will give Kejo a shot and see what happens. I also haven't seen any screenshots of firestorm damaged bases although I probably had firestorms against me when I picked up my first pbem....I remember Tokyo burning for weeks at at time....

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Your math is off Lowpe. Each industry point damaged is worth 2 VPs. 5000 industry, if damaged, will net you 10k VPs, not 100K.
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