Iraq "joining" the axis

[MWalker321]

Hi Alvaro:

I am playing a campaign 1941 winter small fleet game. When Cairo is captured by the Germans Iraq is supposed to join the Axis. However not only does the Iraq unit disappear, but the entire country becomes UK territory. If this is supposed to happen, perhaps a different description should apply other than joining the Axis. If not, perhaps you can add it to the list to be addressed in a future update.

Mike

[Garush]

Hi guys!

I confirm. I've seen this several times. It's true that I've lost Egypt several times. I'm going to end up believing that I'm bad at this game (Who said: "we knew that"?).

Even with what appears to be a bug, it doesn't change the course of the game. The only advantage for the Allied player is being able to land units in Basra without spending landing ships, and try to slow down the Axis troops on their way to Tehran and southern Russia.

My experience (hard acquired... it stings) has proven to me that the few units landed do not even slow down the Wermarcht. But I recognize that the message is at odds with what's happening in the game.

Now Mike, don't think Russia will be easier to attack from the South. We will defend the sacred soil of Rodina.

See you on the battlefield. A pleasure to play against you.

[stjeand]

Did UK declare war on Iraq before losing Cairo?
Did they have a unit in the southern port?

That will switch Iraq to the UK if they attack.

Just wondering is all.

[MWalker321]

Not that I saw. They landed a unit for free after it "joined" the Axis. Interestingly, Persia actually joined the Axis. Unit is intact, hexes are Persian.

And 3 turns later I'm still slogging my way down thru Iraq in heavy rain as he has now walked over the Persian oil. I should have been able to rail to the coast immediately. Honestly if this is the way it is, I probably won't bother with Egypt in the future.

[AlvaroSousa]

What date did you invade?

4/1/1941 Iraq coup becomes pro-axis

5/31/1941 Iraq overthrown by UK (AI event only) if Axis control a part of Egypt

Anytime Iraq joins Axis if 193,8 captured, which I think is Alexandria

4/18/1941 UK unit in Kuwait if Iraq revolts or joins Axis

[MWalker321]

I took Alexandria In late Feb or early March 1941 which was supposed to cause Iraq to join the Axis. Its now April 25, 1941 turn and I have liberated the country, the UK unit fled last turn. The War panel shows this:

And yet Iraq does not show up to give resources to:

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[AlvaroSousa]

It looks like they are allied to you which means they were never conquered.

If you have the save game before they vanished I can take a look at what's happening.

[MWalker321]

I can give you a game #, if you want a file from my system let me know where to look please.

[AlvaroSousa]

It's PBEM? I have no way to look at that.

But I will investigate this further. You sure your opponent didn't take it and you didn't notice?

[Garush]

No, I did not take or even attack Iraq. It looked like a triggered event, like the fall of Cairo, or something like that.

The message itself is correct: Iraq joins the Axis. It's just the result on the map that is wrong: disappearance of the Iraqi unit in Bagdag, and all the hexagons becoming controlled by the UK.

And this isn't the first time I've seen this, in the same circumstances.

[Garush]

Here are the screenshots of the situation. First, turn 76 just before the fall of Cairo:



The report from the start of turn 78:



The situation in Egypt (after the evacuation by ship of the two units which can be seen in the last image):



Finally, a global view of Iraq without the Baghdad garrison, nor any British unit, and a beautiful brown color to signify that the hexagons of Iraq are controlled by the UK:



I hope this can help.

[AlvaroSousa]

Yea so they seemed to have joined then surrendered. I might have the surrender level set wrong for the country.

I will see if I can recreate it for the next patch.

[MWalker321]

OK thanks for taking a look Alvaro.

[AlvaroSousa]

I tested this and it seems to work correctly. Maybe you have an older version of the game?
The A.I. trigger date to deal with Iraq is a month ahead of this scenario.

I also checked the script. Which scenario was it?

[Garush]

Europe 1939 Small Fleet 41 Winter