The Eastern Front.
Combat Logs.
(1) 8 Soviet ground strikes vs 11 targets.
(2) 14 actual vs 14.9 expected flips (-0.9).
(3) 1 Luftwaffe fighter wing shot down.
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GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Moderator: Shannon V. OKeets
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
The Eastern Front.
Combat Logs.
(1) 8 Soviet ground strikes vs 11 targets.
(2) 14 actual vs 14.9 expected flips (-0.9).
(3) 1 Luftwaffe fighter wing shot down.
The Eastern Front.
Combat Logs.
(1) 8 Soviet ground strikes vs 11 targets.
(2) 14 actual vs 14.9 expected flips (-0.9).
(3) 1 Luftwaffe fighter wing shot down.
Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Eastern Front.
(1/8). USSR 36,52
(2/8). Poland 48,50
Eastern Front.
(1/8). USSR 36,52
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Eastern Front.
(3/8) Minsk, USSR.
(4/8) Poland 45,51.
(5/8) Romania 60,53.
Eastern Front.
(3/8) Minsk, USSR.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Eastern Front.
(6/8) Yerevan, Armenia.
(7/8) Lvov, Poland.
(8/8) Poland 52,47.
Eastern Front.
(6/8) Yerevan, Armenia.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Western Allies.
Combat Logs.
(1) The Western Allies launched 19 ground strikes, of which 18 got planes through, against 35 targets (actually struck).
(2) 14 of those targets were flipped vs 14.9 expected (-0.9).
(3) 7 Luftwaffe fighter wings were downed and 1 PIL killed.
(4) To capture and document the following details requires that one is organized and has an easy to use system for capturing and documenting the following 19 ground strikes.
Western Allies.
Combat Logs.
(1) The Western Allies launched 19 ground strikes, of which 18 got planes through, against 35 targets (actually struck).
(2) 14 of those targets were flipped vs 14.9 expected (-0.9).
(3) 7 Luftwaffe fighter wings were downed and 1 PIL killed.
(4) To capture and document the following details requires that one is organized and has an easy to use system for capturing and documenting the following 19 ground strikes.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Western Allies.
(1/19) Helsinki, Finland.
(2/19) Budapest, Hungary.
Western Allies.
(1/19) Helsinki, Finland.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Western Allies.
(3/19) Belgrade, Yugoslavia.
(4/19) Bremen, Germany.
Western Allies.
(3/19) Belgrade, Yugoslavia.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Western Allies.
(6/19) Germany 48,38.
Western Allies.
(6/19) Germany 48,38.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Western Allies.
(7/19) Germany 53,34.
(8/19) Saarbrucken, Germany.
Western Allies.
(7/19) Germany 53,34.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Western Allies.
(9/19) Germany 49,36.
(10/19) Berlin, Germany.
(11/19) Cologne, Germany.
Western Allies.
(9/19) Germany 49,36.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Western Allies.
(12/19) Liege, Belgium.
Western Allies.
(12/19) Liege, Belgium.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Western Allies.
(13/19) Belgium 51,32.
(14/19) Italy 62,33.
(15/19) Munich, Germany.
Western Allies.
(13/19) Belgium 51,32.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Western Allies.
(16/19) Essen, Germany.
(17/19) Arnhem, Holland.
Western Allies.
(16/19) Essen, Germany.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Western Allies.
(18/19) Istanbul, Turkey.
(19/19) Rostock, Germany.
Western Allies.
(18/19) Istanbul, Turkey.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Ground Strike.
Western Allies & Soviets vs Germany.
Summary.
(1) In addition to flipping targets (ground & air), the ground strikes were also used as fighter sweeps to degrade, disorganize the Luftwaffe in order of the allies to gain air superiority and eventually supremacy.
(2) 27 ground strikes total, 46 German land & air targets struck.
(3) 18 of those 27 targets flipped (66.7%) vs 18 expected (-1.9).
(4) 8 of 15 Luftwaffe (& minor axis allies) air wings were shot down (53.3%), 1 of 10 of those pilots killed.
(5) 5 of 7 surviving air wings disorganized.
(6) 2 of 11 organized Luftwaffe (& minor axis allies) bomber wings disorganized.
(7) Though the Luftwaffe has 9 pilots in their reserve pool, they have no fighter & bombers wings in their reserve and only 2 fighter wings currently under production.
(8) I'd have to characterize the allied fighter sweeps this impulse as highly successful and their ground strikes as modestly successful.
(9) The allies still have work to do to whittle down the Luftwaffe more; especially their bomber force.
(10) But the way to best get to the bombers is to knock their fighters down.
(11) I'd say the allies currently have air superiority but are a ways away from achieving air supremacy.
Luftwaffe Pre & Post Allied Ground Strikes.
German Disorganized Land Units Pre & Post Allied Ground Strikes.
German Aircraft, PIL Reserve & Under Production.
Western Allies & Soviets vs Germany.
Summary.
(1) In addition to flipping targets (ground & air), the ground strikes were also used as fighter sweeps to degrade, disorganize the Luftwaffe in order of the allies to gain air superiority and eventually supremacy.
(2) 27 ground strikes total, 46 German land & air targets struck.
(3) 18 of those 27 targets flipped (66.7%) vs 18 expected (-1.9).
(4) 8 of 15 Luftwaffe (& minor axis allies) air wings were shot down (53.3%), 1 of 10 of those pilots killed.
(5) 5 of 7 surviving air wings disorganized.
(6) 2 of 11 organized Luftwaffe (& minor axis allies) bomber wings disorganized.
(7) Though the Luftwaffe has 9 pilots in their reserve pool, they have no fighter & bombers wings in their reserve and only 2 fighter wings currently under production.
(8) I'd have to characterize the allied fighter sweeps this impulse as highly successful and their ground strikes as modestly successful.
(9) The allies still have work to do to whittle down the Luftwaffe more; especially their bomber force.
(10) But the way to best get to the bombers is to knock their fighters down.
(11) I'd say the allies currently have air superiority but are a ways away from achieving air supremacy.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. PTO & Asian Theater.
Land Combat & Support.
Combat Logs.
Land Combat & Support.
Combat Logs.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. PTO. Madagascar.
Land Combat & Support.
(1/5) Diego Suarez, Madagascar.
(2/5) Madagascar 139,78.
Reorg.
End of Impulse.
Land Combat & Support.
(1/5) Diego Suarez, Madagascar.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Asian Theater.
Land Combat & Support.
(3/5) China 80,149.
(4/5) Manchuria 56,153.
(5/5) China 77,135.
Land Combat & Support.
(3/5) China 80,149.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. Asian Theater.
End of Impulse.
China.
Manchuria. Korea.
End of Impulse.
China.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 35. May/June 1945. Allied #2. The Middle East.
End of Impulse.
(1) With the Soviet flank in the Middle East secure now for some time, the Western begin their FULL withdrawal from Soviet held Iraq and Persian.
(2) Partisans in this area is no longer a concern for the Western Allies.
(3) The Western Allies leave the Soviet controlled objective cities Baghdad & Tehran ungarrisoned against Partisans.
(4) In fact, partisan(s) spawning and denying control of either of these objective cities for final scoring (end of next turn) would NOT bother the Western Allies one bit.
(5) Some might suggest that the Western Allies are actually hoping for such.
End of Impulse.
(1) With the Soviet flank in the Middle East secure now for some time, the Western begin their FULL withdrawal from Soviet held Iraq and Persian.
(2) Partisans in this area is no longer a concern for the Western Allies.
(3) The Western Allies leave the Soviet controlled objective cities Baghdad & Tehran ungarrisoned against Partisans.
(4) In fact, partisan(s) spawning and denying control of either of these objective cities for final scoring (end of next turn) would NOT bother the Western Allies one bit.
(5) Some might suggest that the Western Allies are actually hoping for such.
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Ronnie