Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd

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44-7-14:

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44-7-16/17:

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44-7-18/19:
All else is a side show. The IJN KB is camped east of Rabaul, marauding my supply lines. Somehow my CVE cover fleet got separated from my CV TF and got butched by the KB. Marine land based navair sank a damaged jap cve north of Rabaul.


Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Torokina at 108,129

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M1 Sam x 8
A7M1a Sam x 20
A7M2 Sam x 80
B6N2 Jill x 22
D4Y4 Judy x 80

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 5
FM-2 Wildcat x 17
F4U-1A Corsair x 61
F6F-3 Hellcat x 63
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M1 Sam: 2 destroyed
A7M1a Sam: 1 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 39 destroyed, 6 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE St. Lo, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVE Kitkun Bay, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVE Liscome Bay, Torpedo hits 1
CVE Casablanca, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Kalinin Bay
DD Claxton
CVE Kasaan Bay
CVE Natoma Bay

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
8 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
3 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
1 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
4 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
2 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
1 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 11000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
3 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
4 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
4 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

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I did not remember the b24 low nav orders when I did last turn. Always wondered what b24s will do to a Jap CV. Well, I found out when john moved into range. Afternoon On this 2nd day turn this is my only strike on the KB.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Choiseul Bay at 113,128

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Sen Baku x 35
A7M1 Sam x 8
A7M1a Sam x 29
A7M2 Sam x 119
N1K1 Rex x 15

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 7
B-24J Liberator x 39

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Sen Baku: 1 destroyed
N1K1 Rex: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 7 destroyed, 12 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BC Kongo
BC Chichibu
CVE Terukuni Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CV Taiho, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CV Katsuragi
CV Kasigi

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
582 Ku S-1 with A7M2 Sam (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Taiho Kansen with A7M2 Sam (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
Yamada Det S-2/A with A7M2 Sam (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
254 Ku S-1 with A7M2 Sam (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 32180.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
263 Ku S-1/A with A7M1a Sam (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 3000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
263 Ku S-1/B with A7M1a Sam (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
S-310 Hikotai /B with A7M1a Sam (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
Yamada Det S-2/B with A7M2 Sam (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
S-310 Hikotai /C with A7M1a Sam (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 21000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
Ibuki Kansen with A7M2 Sam (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 21000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 4000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
S-901 Hikotai/A with A7M2 Sam (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 21000 , scrambling fighters to 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
Taiho Kansen with A7M2 Sam (6 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 21000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
Katsuragi Kansen with A7M2 Sam (6 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 32180.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
721 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Sen Baku (11 airborne, 24 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 29070.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
Kasagi Kansen with A7M2 Sam (6 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
Shinyo Kansen with A7M1 Sam (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
Owari-1 with N1K1 Rex (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
Hitachi-1 with N1K1 Rex (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Chichibu-1 with N1K1 Rex (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Raid is overhead
Kushiro Kansen with A7M2 Sam (5 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes

Kubota H. in a N1K1 Rex makes head on attack ... B-24J Liberator destroyed
Kurihara V. in a N1K1 Rex makes head on attack ... forces B-24J Liberator out of formation
Fuel storage explosion on CV Taiho

[RangerJoe]

Fuel storage explosion on CV Taiho

Gas barbeque, Japanese style!

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44-7-22/23:

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1944-7-26 and 27:

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Intel reports jap convoy w/ 34th and 42nd IJA div headed to Saigon. Unlucky for John as allies have seized a size 3 and size 5 airfield near Saigon last turn by Paradrop. Reinforced by paradrop this turn elements of the Lushai Indian airborne BDE hold the line at Bien Hoa balls airfield(5). All in theatre dive bombers rebase to Kratie(3) located 2 hexes from Saigon.
and seem to do some good damage to the IJN TF which unsuspecting moves directly into DB range.

Bien Hoa becomes a struggle this turn between elements of the Lushai Ind para reg. and 8th expeditionary force. Itseems my para landing last turn beat this jp bde into Bien Hoa by one day as it showed up after the first day airdrop. I assume this is one of the Jap marine units available in this senario from combined SLNF units. So we will see how combat fit these guys are.

Allied ground support was heavy, shown by effect on jap attack 2nd day. This may change as the remains of two jap divisions arrive at Saigon.

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Ground combat at Bien Hoa (61,70)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 4192 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 122

Defending force 1092 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 79

Japanese adjusted assault: 58

Allied adjusted defense: 35

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
258 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
8th Exped. Force

Defending units:
Lushai Bde /1
77th LRP Bde /3
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Ground combat at Bien Hoa (61,70)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3927 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 95

Defending force 2026 troops, 36 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 107

Japanese adjusted assault: 6

Allied adjusted defense: 47

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 7 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
127 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
8th Exped. Force

Defending units:
Lushai Bde /1

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 60,71

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 15
SBD-5 Dauntless x 10

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAP Anjiin Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAP Kamo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP Hakone Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires

Japanese ground losses:
392 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 60,71

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-A George x 7
Ki-84a Frank x 12

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 10
SBD-5 Dauntless x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 4 destroyed
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAP Hakone Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
237 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
263 Ku S-2 with N1K2-A George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
50th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (4 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
244th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAP Hakone Maru


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 60,71

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-A George x 3
Ki-84a Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 7
B-26B(T) Marauder x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAP Hakone Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AK Yamasimo Maru, Bomb hits 1
xAP Kongo Maru
AMC Ukishima Maru
xAP Meiji Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAP Montevideo Maru

Japanese ground losses:
503 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25H Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x B-25H Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x B-26B(T) Marauder launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo

CAP engaged:
263 Ku S-2 with N1K2-A George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
244th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 108 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 60,71

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-A George x 3
Ki-84a Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
AMC Gokoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Sagami Maru

Japanese ground losses:
205 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25H Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 1 plane(s) with no ordnance
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x B-25H Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
263 Ku S-2 with N1K2-A George (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 1000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 1000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
244th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 1000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes

Banzai! - Harada R. in a Ki-84a Frank rams a B-25H Mitchell for the Emperor
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 60,71

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-A George x 6
Ki-84a Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3
B-25C Mitchell x 3
B-25H Mitchell x 15
B-26B(T) Marauder x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Kansai Maru, Bomb hits 1
xAP Ural Maru, Shell hits 3
xAP Dairen Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP Montevideo Maru
xAK Kano Maru, Shell hits 3
AK Sado Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP Teison Maru
AMC Ukishima Maru
xAP Bekia Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAP Haruna Maru
APD Yakaze
AMC Gokoku Maru, Bomb hits 1
AK Amagisan Maru
AK Arima Maru
xAK Arizona Maru, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25H Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x B-25H Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x B-26B(T) Marauder launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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44-7-29*30:

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44-7-31:

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Comments: Bein Hoa moves to center of all activities. Paras outnumbered 6-1. Lushie BDE commander sends out the call:
BROKEN ARROW
36 miles to northwest of Bien Hoa 255 Indian AR BDE barrels south with 52 Shermans, 52 Grants and 52 Stuarts in road march mode (strat). CBT strength of 200 will be quartered to 50 for the impending Jap shock attack.

24 miles to northeast the Indian 46th BDE (108av) and the 1st china new corp (455av) in move mode are going into Bein Hoa. These two units will provide 50% value to combat odds if they arrive 1st day, for sure on 2nd day.

Estimate of upcoming Jap attack is 600av doubled for shock to 1200av. Allied defense 1st day is 100+50=150. allied air will pulverize this attack and also bomb jap supply Sourses to cause some drop in the AV. If the allies hold Bien Hoa after day one then all is good for the allies.

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Bien Hoa falls, no help arrived in time. Help does arrive 2nd day, but base has changed control.

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44-8-1:

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End of month allies have pulled up even with Japan in VP. Note strat bombing points. Targeted the HA-45 engine plants.

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44-8-3/4:
i missed this screen print. Important counterattack by japs north of Vinh.

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44-8-3: All ground attacks occured on first day. 2nd day was a change in strat bomber targeting as Tokyo port was night bombed with 63 jap ships in port. That screen print is a consolidated report from all night attacks at Tokyo port.

Of note is the curious attack at Kushiro. IJN has a fort 5. My attack is 1-3 but I do more damage to the Japs.

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An interesting situation.

[John 3rd]

I don't come into the Forum very much right now but wanted to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.

[RangerJoe]

I don't come into the Forum very much right now but wanted to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.

Have a good day!

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44-8-9/10: