No new French Army in Algiers received - even by Nov 1940

[OxfordGuy3]

The latest manual says on page 168: "Should France manage to survive through to October 1940, then her National Morale will improve, and at the start of August 1940 a new Army will be formed in Algiers." It's now November 1940, I'm playing the Allies versus a human Axis opponent and France still hasn't surrendered (Bordeaux is my capital, but Paris only fell last turn), but I didn't get a new French Army in Algiers - should I have? I did get the boost the national morale in October.

[DarkHorse2]

I am not certain this is currently implemented the way you have interpreted.

From what I can tell, it really is dependent on Germany being presented with the "Vichy France" choice as a prerequisite.


The event(s) I can find that grants a French Army Unit at Algiers is the following below...

#LINK= 602[0] means there is a dependency on an event with #DECISION= 602. (I have listed that below as well)

I was under the impression that these links are not satisfied until a YES/NO decision is made.

A YES/NO decision is not made until France has surrendered and Germany decides rather to install Vichy France or Not.

There are 2 more I have listed at the very end that also seem to depend on a DoW against "Vichy" France.

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;REMOVE1941
;
; French Forces regroup in Algiers
{
#NAME= DE 602 - French Army In Algiers After Fall Of France
#POPUP= <<TAG_27>>
#IMAGE=
#SOUND=
#FLAG= 1
#TYPE= 1
#AI= 0
#LEVEL= 0
#GV= 1[1,100]
#LINK= 602[0]
#COUNTRY_ID= 40
#TRIGGER= 100
#PRIVATE= 0
#DISPLAY_TURN= 0
#FULL_RESEARCH= 0
#DATE= 1939/09/01
#FAILSAFE_DATE= 1940/08/01
#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 152,113
; France politically aligned with Allies and not surrendered
#VARIABLE_CONDITION= 40 [2] [100] [0]
; Dummy condition position (always satisfied)
#CONDITION_POSITION= 0,0 [0,0] [0,0] [0] [0]
#UNIT= 5 [10] [1] [Africa]
}

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<<TAG_27>>= French Army Of Africa Formed In Algiers

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;REMOVE1941
{
#NAME= DE 602 - Germany: Should Germany Create Vichy France? (AI - 100% Yes)
#POPUP=
#MESSAGE= <<TAG_194>>
#IMAGE=
#SOUND= teletype_1.ogg, teletype_2.ogg
#FLAG= 1
#TYPE= 1
#AI= 0
#LEVEL= 0
#COUNTRY_ID= 45
#TRIGGER= 100
#DISPLAY_ORDER= 0
; Set global variable condition to always trigger (dummy value)
#GV= 1[1,100]
; Set link value to always trigger (dummy value)
#LINK= 0[0]
; Set decision value (1st internally stored decision)
#DECISION= 602
#MPP_UPDOWN= 0
#MPP_TURNS= 0
#MPP_TEXT=
#NOTES= <<TAG_195>>
#NOTES_POSITION= 153,92
; Set AI acceptance % (AI will accept 100% of the time)
#AI_RESPONSE= 100
#AI_RESPONSE_POPUP= <<TAG_196>>
#DATE= 1939/09/01
#TEXT_RGB= 0,0,0
#SHADOW_RGB= 0,0,0
; Toronto is in Allied hands
#ALIGNMENT_POSITION= 1,96 [2]
;Set National Morale Trigger (dummy value)
#NATIONAL_MORALE_TRIGGER= 0 [0]
; Set variable conditions:
; 1st Line - France politically aligned with Allies and surrendered
#VARIABLE_CONDITION= 40 [2] [100] [1]
; Dummy condition position (always satisfied)
#CONDITION_POSITION= 0,0 [0,0] [0,0] [0] [0]
}

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;REMOVE1941
;
; Vichy France (Algiers Corps)
; This event will be called (by the game engine) when Vichy France is DoW'd upon
{
#NAME= Vichy Algeria (Algiers XIX Corps)
#POPUP=
#IMAGE=
#SOUND=
#FLAG= 1
#TYPE= 1
#AI= 0
#LEVEL= 0
; Set global variable condition to always trigger (dummy value)
#GV= 1[1,100]
; Set link value to always trigger (dummy value)
#LINK= 0[0]
#COUNTRY_ID= 4
#TRIGGER= 100
#PRIVATE= 0
#DISPLAY_TURN= 0
#FULL_RESEARCH= 0
#DATE= 1939/09/01
#FAILSAFE_DATE= 1939/09/01
#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 152,113
#VARIABLE_CONDITION= 4 [1] [100] [0]
; dummy condition position (always satisfied)
#CONDITION_POSITION= 0,0 [0,0] [0,0] [0] [0]
#UNIT= 4 [3] [0] [XIX]
}

;REMOVE1941
;
; Vichy France (Algiers Corps)
; This event will be called (by the game engine) when Vichy France is DoW'd upon
{
#NAME= Vichy Algeria (Algiers XIX Corps)
#POPUP=
#IMAGE=
#SOUND=
#FLAG= 1
#TYPE= 1
#AI= 0
#LEVEL= 0
; Set global variable condition to always trigger (dummy value)
#GV= 1[1,100]
; Set link value to always trigger (dummy value)
#LINK= 0[0]
#COUNTRY_ID= 4
#TRIGGER= 100
#PRIVATE= 0
#DISPLAY_TURN= 0
#FULL_RESEARCH= 0
#DATE= 1939/09/01
#FAILSAFE_DATE= 1939/09/01
#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 152,113
#VARIABLE_CONDITION= 4 [2] [100] [0]
; dummy condition position (always satisfied)
#CONDITION_POSITION= 0,0 [0,0] [0,0] [0] [0]
#UNIT= 4 [5] [0] [XIX]
}

[DarkHorse2]

At first glance, I can see where someone could miss it.

In fact, I had to read the manual again after reviewing the script implementations. Only then did I catch the subsquent paragraph fully -

However, if the Axis player decides not to form
Vichy France then the French will continue the fight
from Algeria and their reinvigorated resistance will
provide a small but significant boost to France’s
National Morale to enable them to fight on.

The wording could have been a little more clear I think.

[OxfordGuy3]

So you can only get the Army in Algiers if Germany has been present with (and rejected) the option to form Vichy? The way it's wording in the manual doesn't make this very clear.

[DarkHorse2]

So you can only get the Army in Algiers if Germany has been present with (and rejected) the option to form Vichy? The way it's wording in the manual doesn't make this very clear.

I agree.

I could only make sense of what was was going on from reading the manual.... reading the scripts.... re-reading the manual....

and then it was like... oh I see what they are trying to say now.