[1527] Anomalies Related to Auto-Engage with Mk83 Iron Bombs (CWDB)

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boogabooga
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[1527] Anomalies Related to Auto-Engage with Mk83 Iron Bombs (CWDB)

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I'm noticing anomalies related to auto-engage with Mk83 iron bombs (possibly Mk84 and others), especially when using 'recent' versions of the CWDB. These do not seem to affect other iron bombs, such as the Mk82.

First, the Land Weapon Range Ring does not show-up when A/C are armed with Mk83 as they do when they are armed with Mk82, as seen in this screengrab:
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In the mission '1527 Mk83 Auto Engage Bug Yankee Station.scen', they A-3s circle around the target that they are trying to auto engage- without ever releasing.

In the mission '1500 Mk83 Bug Test CWDB 499.scen,' both the Mk82-armed and Mk83-armed A-3s engage their ground targets as expected. This shows that there was no issue on earlier CWDBs.

In the mission '1500 Mk83 Bug Test CWDB 509.scen,' the Mk83-equipped strike aircraft does not drop on its first pass like its Mk82-equipped counterpart does. Although it may drop on a subsequent pass in this particular example, often I'm seeing that Mk83-equipped A/C never drop at all, as can be seen in the other scenario. Anyway, comparing with the previous scenario, something seems to have gone "wrong" with the Mk83 between CWDB 499 and 509.
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Re: [1527] Anomalies Related to Auto-Engage with Mk83 Iron Bombs (CWDB)

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I only tried the Yankee Station one and noted this immediately...

499 (Note a min and max altitude)

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509 (Same unit ID)

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Re: [1527] Anomalies Related to Auto-Engage with Mk83 Iron Bombs (CWDB)

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I checked the 1000 lb LDGP bomb in DB3K 509.

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Tested it and it works.

In the CWDB 509 db, its only the 1000 lb and 2000 lb that have the issue, it seems.
boogabooga
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Re: [1527] Anomalies Related to Auto-Engage with Mk83 Iron Bombs (CWDB)

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Good eye.
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