Downfall Scenario and Mod Bugs

[warpig06]

I've played the Downfall scenario a few times, it has a few bugs in it, but nothing major. Then I decided to use the Editor to mod it (mostly to relocate all the West Coast units to Manila, so I wouldn't have to mess around with 2 months worth of troop convoys across the Pacific; also to extend the game time limit from 1 year to 2 years). Now when I play it, I am having problems getting supply moved from one base to an adjacent base. This doesn't happen when I take Taiwan or Korea, but only when I start taking cities on the Japanese mainland. I've got way north of a million at Shiminoseki, but zero at Tokuyama, right next door, for example. I can resupply Tokuyama by ship (at the expense of kamikaze attacks), but when I attack the next city hex (Hiroshima), my troops don't bring supplies with them. It's unsustainable unless I amphibious assault every single Japanese city.

Is there a secret hack to fixing this problem, or am I stuck with the original scenario sans any mods? Has anyone modded other scenarios and seen the same thing?

Thanks

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[BBfanboy]

That doesn't sound like a mod bug - it's just the way supply works in some spots. Supply flows to where the demand is - HQs, troop concentrations, active combat, larger base and especially the largest port. I bet Tokuyama does not have enough size or troops to draw supply to it. Put an HQ there and build it up. If you go to Hiroshima and attack it the supply will still follow your troops there even if they don't stop at Tokuyama.
When I played the IJ side to see what it was like, Tokuyama was always short on supplies.

[PaxMondo]

...I've got way north of a million at Shiminoseki, but zero at Tokuyama, right next door, for example. ...

Is there a secret hack to fixing this problem, or am I stuck with the original scenario sans any mods? Has anyone modded other scenarios and seen the same thing?

I agree with BBFB, this doesn't seem like a mod bug per se. But let's find out.

Please post 2 screens shots, the first with Hexside terrain showing (F6) and then with Hexside ownership showing (w). In both cases be sure to turn off the previous effect before choosing the next one AND be sure that you have NOT selected Tokuyama as your hex, but get Tokuyama centered in your screenshot.

Once you post these, we'll see what we have ....

[warpig06]

Thanks for responding. A couple of additional notes:

-I'm following the same invasion script in the modded game as I used for the unmodded game, and never had these supply issues.
-Im experiencing the same supply issues with Matsue and Tottori.
-The only reason any of my cities (besides Shimino) have supply is due to B29 resupply or AK cargo task forces.
-Before I invaded Hiroshima, my entire 1st Army was parked at Tokuyama; had tons of support points/HQ units stacked there. I watched the supply go from 150k to like 10k over the course of a week (before the AK/B29 resupply).

Here's F6:

https://ibb.co/D5Rfh0w

Here's w:

https://ibb.co/k1kz438

Thanks for your help!

[PaxMondo]

Ok, nothing wrong with your pwhexe file.

So, your game file got corrupted. Either bad luck OR your modding exceeded an internal boundary.

Based upon your original post:

• Double check your end date. Make sure it is what you planned.

• Then go into your mod file and double check that you didn't make an error in the new location (changing it from WC to Manila.

If that fails, try a restart and see. If it is a persistent error, it is a modding error, and something other than the location. Very hard to say. I would do a file compare between the original and your mod files and check that way. If it does not reappear, it was bad luck, you had a memory fail or something like that.

[warpig06]

Thanks, Pax.

I THINK I figured out the problem. I ran a few test scenarios and got the same problem, just at different locations (Takao, Shimino, Shanghai). The common denominator was super stacking B29's at a single base. Size 9 airfield with several thousand non-B29 a/c worked fine (supply distribution to adjacent hexes), but as soon as I put more than 800 (plus or minus, still haven't gamed out the precise number) or so B29's into a non-island base, I ran into the familiar supply distribution problems. As soon as I relocated some of the B29's, the supply problem disappeared. I had 3x supply points at my B29 bases, so it wasnt like I was starving adjacent hexes to feed my bombers.

Weird.

At least I know how to manage the "bug" now and it isn't terribly disruptive.

[Sardaukar]

I have had same problem in DaBabesLite game.

B-29s somehow hog supply way more than any other plane. I have not found why.

[Yaab]

Well, there is some initial jump in supply required at a base once you rebase an air group, but it resets after a few turns.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 3#p3735543

[bradfordkay]

I have had same problem in DaBabesLite game.

B-29s somehow hog supply way more than any other plane. I have not found why.

Well, it might have something to do with having more than double the payload of any other a/c in the game.

[PaxMondo]

I have had same problem in DaBabesLite game.

B-29s somehow hog supply way more than any other plane. I have not found why.

Well, it might have something to do with having more than double the payload of any other a/c in the game.

Yeah, this looks like a variable exceeding its range ... and 800 B29's at a single base could easily do that ...

[warpig06]

I have had same problem in DaBabesLite game.

B-29s somehow hog supply way more than any other plane. I have not found why.

Well, it might have something to do with having more than double the payload of any other a/c in the game.

Yeah, this looks like a variable exceeding its range ... and 800 B29's at a single base could easily do that ...

Plus or minus LOL

[PaxMondo]

Well, think about it. I'm not sure that there is a base today that could handle +800 B29 for combat ... I mean, fuel, bombs, techs, hard stands ... yeah, I mean the boneyard down near Tucson might be able to park that many, but actually be able to operate them? Not really my area of expertise, but just saying it would take a good sized metro to support that many combat ready aircraft ...

[Sardaukar]

Considering that Tinian's 4 airfield complex was biggest in WW II and it hosted 269 B-29s, so 800 would really be pushing it...