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Re: DShK Production Quantities

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Wiedrock wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 6:15 am
https://topwar.ru/403-pulemet-s-laskovym-imenem.html wrote:And if for the first six months of the war the Armed Forces received 1400 DShK from industry, and for the whole of 1942 - 7400, then in 1943 - 14 400, in 1944 - 14 800, and for the first half of 1945 - 7300.
Found the actual source for that quote: it is from "Military and service weapons of Russia" by Viktor Nikolaevich Shunkov, who wrote a ton of books about military equipment (there is another Viktor Shunkov, but he was researching the history of Siberia).
https://iknigi.net/avtor-viktor-shunkov ... ge-29.html
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Re: DShK Production Quantities

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Has this been looked at?
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Re: DShK Production Quantities

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DrHiramTemple wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 6:36 pm Далее я наткнулся на пост в блоге topwar.eu, в котором утверждается, что за время войны Советский Союз потерял около 10 000 «крупнокалиберных пулемётов», что составляет 21% от общего объёма производства. Это дает ошеломляющую цифру в 47 600 произведенных ДШК, которая кажется... оптимистичной по сравнению с любыми другими цифрами, которые мне удалось найти (ДШК был единственным крупнокалиберным пулеметом, который массово производился в СССР, а производство «Максима» просто затмевает эту цифру, так что она не может быть результатом их совместного производства). Давайте просто назовем это верхней границей.
I was asked to join the discussion of this problem, and the most obvious thing you are overlooking is that DShK machine guns were far from the only large-caliber machine guns mass-produced by the USSR. For example, there was the UB machine gun in various modifications, for instance the UBT was mounted as a turret on the Il-2 from 1942, also on the SB, Pe-2, Tu-2. The UBS was mounted on aircraft such as the LaGG, some series of the I-16, MiG-3, Yak-1, Yak-7, Yak-9, Yak-3 and so on. An insane number of such machine guns were produced.

Moreover, DShKs were mounted not only on armored vehicles, but also on railway trains, ships, including river flotillas. So far from all the DShKs that existed in reality do we see in the game.

I'll finish reading everything written in this thread later, and maybe I'll notice something else.
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Re: DShK Production Quantities

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LiveseyY wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2026 11:32 am I was asked to join the discussion of this problem, and the most obvious thing you are overlooking is that DShK machine guns were far from the only large-caliber machine guns mass-produced by the USSR. For example, there was the UB machine gun in various modifications, for instance the UBT was mounted as a turret on the Il-2 from 1942, also on the SB, Pe-2, Tu-2. The UBS was mounted on aircraft such as the LaGG, some series of the I-16, MiG-3, Yak-1, Yak-7, Yak-9, Yak-3 and so on. An insane number of such machine guns were produced.

Moreover, DShKs were mounted not only on armored vehicles, but also on railway trains, ships, including river flotillas. So far from all the DShKs that existed in reality do we see in the game.

I'll finish reading everything written in this thread later, and maybe I'll notice something else.
Aerial Guns were produced in another factory. Naval guns in the same, but are listed separately.
See this post for some figures/infos.

There is even a number for total sent to the navy which is
DrHiramTemple wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 11:01 pm For the naval figure, that was mentioned in Soviet Cannon:
During the war the Soviet Navy received 5164 DShK machine guns that were supplemented by 92 lend lease 12.7mm quadruple barrel Vickers and 1611 12.7mm twin parrel Colt-Browning machine gun mounts.
it was mentioned in another source that i can't quite recall offhand. that one also broke down the naval DShKs as being about 4,000 produced specifically for the navy and about 1,000 that were transferred over from the army.
@DrHiram, I think you should emphasize the standing of the "Soviet Cannon: A Comprehensive Study of Soviet Guns and Ammunition in Calibres 12.7mm to 57mm", since it is not the usualy 'copy-paste' it appears, which leads to such situations we face here. :D
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