Another example of fleet stopping to refuel at a bad time

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100thMonkey
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Another example of fleet stopping to refuel at a bad time

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Platform: Steam
Build version: v1.3.1.1 Beta + Expansion and all DLCs
Severity: Medium
Annoyance factor: Very High
Confusion for new players: High
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Another super annoying one!

As a follow-up to my other report of a very similar problem (see https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopic.php?t=411981), this time 4th Fleet (manually controlled) is pursuing a Hive frigate (which it had almost catched-up to), when the flagship suddenly decided to stop to refuel (from tankers), resulting in the fleet stopping also.

4th Fleet is manually controlled, and my policies are set to NOT automatically refuel manual fleets.

And this time, the save was made (autosave) just before the problem happened (I also have a save made right after the problem occured, if you need it).

Here’s an overview of the situation before the problem happened:

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The situation is not as egregious as the one in my previous report (mentioned and linked above), in that the fleet’s tanks aren’t full. But still, it has quite a bit of fuel left, likely enough to catchup the Hive frigate.

Flagship waiting for tanker.png
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The game shouldn’t stop to refuel when a manual order has been given to it. But what it could (should) do instead, when it “thinks” that the fleet doesn’t have as much fuel as it should, is to ask the player if he or she want the fleet to refuel (either from tankers or to a nearby refueling point if there’s one).

But in the situation I’m reporting here, stopping the fleet , without even a notification, is, from my perspective, unacceptable behavior.

Steps to reproduce

* Load the autoave1 file
* Select 4th Fleet (press 4)
* Unpause the game

You’ll see that shortly after, the fleet will stop moving / pursuing the Hive frigate. Then select the flagship, and you’ll see that it’s waiting for tankers.


EDIT: I've continued the game, and the frustration level continued to rise! I repeated to 4th Fleet the order to attack the Hive frigate. For a very short while, it did, and then, the flagship stopped again for tankers. That process repeated many times, until the fleet was actually low on fuel and the Hive frigate was able to escape my fleet. Annoying you say?...
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Re: Another example of fleet stopping to refuel at a bad time

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Thanks, we'll investigate.
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