The World at War ELO Tournament

[petedalby]

New ELO game begins:

HarrySmith(Allies) vs petedalby (Axis)

Where I will be trying to avoid the many mistakes that I made vs Umeu. Who knows? I might even build a few Strat Bombers of my own!

[ThunderLizard11]

[ELOs Ended]
ThunderLizard11 (allies) [WIN] v. wirkey (axis) [LOSS] - wirkey resigned Nov 1940. Axis got bogged down in France with Paris and Southern France still held by Allies. Germans seemed to have misplaced the Fall Gelb plan and tried a through the Maginot approach, leaving Belgium to their chocolates, but it took too long leading to loss of tanks and units for Jerry.

ThunderLizard11 (allies) [WIN] v.arikogut (axis) [LOSS] - Axis resigns Sept '45. Russians have taken Poland and Romania and Germany is on the back foot. Japan is completely isolated and dug in. France and Italy still in Axis hands. Good game by arikogut with 2-3 turns returned a day.

[ELOs Started]
ThunderLizard11 (allies) v. wirkey (axis) - rematch
ThunderLizard11 (axis) v.arikogut (allies) - switched sides

[DavidDailey]

Thanks for the description of events. These beg the following questions. 1. A late conquest of France is obviously unacceptable. Delaying it to stop the Tripoli strategy is not feasible. Are there enough Italian resources that can be committed before Italy enters the war to stop it, presuming a relatively early Italian entry? 2. I presume part of the Tripoli strategy is blasting the supplies through the port of Tripoli. This business of using strat bombers, other airplanes and ships to obliterate supply chokepoints must have some counter. Would making a massive investment in AA defence and building AA guns and placing fighters next to supply chokepoints counter this strategy?

[DavidDailey]

The above post is referring to the Umeu description of his victory against PeteDalby.

[Umeu]

Thanks for the description of events. These beg the following questions. 1. A late conquest of France is obviously unacceptable. Delaying it to stop the Tripoli strategy is not feasible. Are there enough Italian resources that can be committed before Italy enters the war to stop it, presuming a relatively early Italian entry? 2. I presume part of the Tripoli strategy is blasting the supplies through the port of Tripoli. This business of using strat bombers, other airplanes and ships to obliterate supply chokepoints must have some counter. Would making a massive investment in AA defence and building AA guns and placing fighters next to supply chokepoints counter this strategy?

1) Haven't tried it yet, but theoretically sending an HQ +corps to tripoli to support the army there should delay long enough to make the strategy unfeasible for the allies, unless France can hold out for a long time.

And yes, part of the strategy is destroying all the Axis ports on the North African coast, and if necessary of coastal towns as well.

2) as far as I know there is no real counter to strat bombers. AA guns and AA upgrades on cities reduce effectiveness somewhat, and make it more costly, but in general the bomber upgrades outpace the AA upgrades, especially since AA guns are capped at 3, and they have been nerfed recently. Besides, there are usually tricks to disable the AA gun before the bomber does its work, or, if there are too many AA guns, you just hit a different target. The bombers are much more flexible, since AA batteries are stationary.

I'm not sure it's necessarily a problem, since in the real war, there also wasn't really an effective way to counter massive heavy bomber raids. The best counter to this is to make sure you max out the logistics tech, in which case it's very hard to starve armies that are supported by HQs but it does hamper them still.

Allies can make more of them later in the war, and the British start with 1. But Axis can have more strat bombers in the early to mid part of the war. Some players make them. Bavre used strat bombers very devastatingly vs me in Russia. But it's a very big investment, and it means you lose power on the ground. So it's a choice you can't take lightly, and you must commit to it early, since the bombers take long to build and also you need some upgrades to make them better.

[petedalby]

New Games started
HarrySmith (Axis) vs petedalby (Allies)

Another tough outing for the Axis. Allied Decisive Victory in July '46.

Harry is a great opponent. Excellent comms and regular turns. We've already started the rematch.

[HARRIS45]

HARRIS45(axis) defeats Pekkavilamoure (allies) 5/46 as allies resign. Fun game with allies applying pressure but axis firmly in control of Paris/Moscow/Chungking.

[DmitryN]

Hello all. I have not played for 2-3 years but hope still remember mechanics well. Ready to play any side against any player above averedge, except Fanfir, who always won

[ElvisJJonesRambo]

Hello all. I have not played for 2-3 years but hope still remember mechanics well. Ready to play any side against any player above averedge, except Fanfir, who always won

You kicked my ass, couple times.
Haven't played much in 2025.
Got some games going, ready for more action, like old drugs.

2-games up for you Russian guy

*** ONLY pick 1-game, I don't mirror-games at same time ***

Axis password = Adolf
Allies password = Putin

[DmitryN]

Accepted. Axis - DmitryN Allies Elvis. Could somebody give me a link to actual rules which are valid at the moment. athings could have changed and I may forgot something

[DmitryN]

Can take 1 more game as allies. Same conditions

[inbello]

Hi DmitryN

I'd be happy to play with you.

I put a game Online password; DMIT.

Good Luck

[DmitryN]

Sorry. already haved accepted 1 more from Umeo. 3 games will be too much for me

[inbello]

Don't worry, Good luck with your games

[ElvisJJonesRambo]

With Summer over, seems this game is getting some active play.
I barely played, first half of 2025.
Checking the rankings, haven't been updated since April 2025.

Is Early Doors still around, hopefully?

[DmitryN]

2 games started
Dmitry Axis Elvis Allies
Dmitry Allies Emeu Axis

[inbello]

New Game started OldShane(Axis) vs Inbello(Allies)

[ElvisJJonesRambo]

[LOSS] ElvisJJonesRambo (Allies) vs Umeu (Axis) --- France & England surrender November 1939, turn #3. That scripted opening of Umeu is too perfect. Don't need rankings, Umeu is now the official #1 ranked player in the world. His first 3 turns too powerful, he's busted this game wide open with all the study.

[LOSS] ElvisJJonesRambo (Allies) vs DmitryN (Axis) --- Allies gambled like madmen on North Africa. Tripoli, Bengazi, Tobruk fell in 1940. Italians sent troops down to East Africa, around Cape Horn. Figured would be a good gambit. Germans didn't worry, and sent paratroops to Tunisia. Two, level-2 Panzers with motorization promptly and steadily went from Turnis, all the way to the Holy Lands, supported by Luftwaffe and probably Rommel. Allies had brought contractor IT-Indians to Tobruk. Only problem, played too agressive and didnt' retreat, didn't realize the Germans could gas those tanks on low supply and travel that fast. One poor move, cost 2-Armies and HQ. It was downhill from there.

Germans bribed Turkey, so Allies had to waste full chits into politics. The pinch was later received, As Persia was taken by Adolf. Paulus sent Panzers through the Caucasus. The British wasted all their resources in early North Africa, disaster, that U-Boats got nasty, gaining massive experience.

Once the Red Sea and Suez were captured, Japs were already in the MedSea before Pearl Harbor. Allies even recaptured Tunis, believe it or not. Where did all the Allied money go? Crazy early invastions, that took Sicily in two pieces, both cities at different times. Yugos also entered, Albania. All for naught, as everyone had to retreat from Sicily. Italy took their National morale only down to 80, wasn't worth it. Meanwhile, East Africa was a disaster. Got outplayed in Kenya/Khooutram. Damn it, two moves in North Africa and East Africa were huge. Was too agreesive. Never thought the turn Panzers waxed main force, could even reach me, else I could have held Egypt.

Chinese were a complete joke. Ground to powder. Didn't play bad, not alot I could do with Mech Unit with motorization, Air support, and Elite Armies constant killing.

Russia was doomed. Uboats forced Allies to stop shipments for 75% of the turns, as British had to build Anti-Sub tech and hide majority of the game.

The Yanks at least made the game fun in the Pacific. with AA level 3 at Pearl, and quikcly to AA-4, got foothold in Phillipines, held Singapore, Burma with Japs sending few ships to Portugal. Yanks were so desperate, too many chances cost Carrier.

DmitryN is solid, there's no shortcuts or tricks. Plays the ground well, he loves Motorization. Has no fear to his own supply, and uses the 2-unit suck supply down on his opponents. Beware, this guy is Top 10.

[DmitryN]

What is funny about my game with Elvis. While I have not played for 2 years I did not know about the strategy of allies attack against Italy NA from Tunis in early game (now I have read AAR and know that it is not first time used). So I had no plans or ideas to counter it. Just moved bombers and paratroops to Sicily planing to land on NA territory controlled by Italy from the game start. But after preparation of paratroops I just realized that this territory is out of my range. Just having no other options with 3 bombers (2 is enough) and para in Sicily i just attacked Vichy Tunis. For some reason it affected only USSR mobilization on 3%. Tunis port is under total control of German aviation and there is no problem to land germans through it. Thus, I guess such move totally counter the strategy of Allies attack from Tunis. Just lost few month nothing else.

[ElvisJJonesRambo]

My mistake was not being content with taking Tripoli. Could have easily just left. Instead, I took Benghazi and then Tobruk. Allies were stretched, low supply, no speed. I gambled, didn't expect the a visit from the Panzers so quickly. You brought the heat, fast.

Thinking back, I took Syracuse first! I was surprised to see it empty. My flavor of attack was outta control.

In the Pacific, I had no choice but kamikaze so early in the game. British were worthless. You were smart to go super-subs and long-range. Russia got no help.