Idle Automated Construction Ships without shields

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Idle Automated Construction Ships without shields

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Platform: Steam
Build version: v1.3.1.1 + Expansion and all DLCs
Severity: Medium
Annoyance factor: High
Confusion for new players: Very High


I’ve created a thread in the main DW2 forum called “Bug or game mechanic?” about automated idle construction ships in gravitic storms, that should have been protected against their effects, and were in part, except that:

* their shields were almost completely depleted
* they weren’t taking any of the available missions, even though they were automated.

Given what I’ve seen in the thread (including, Maxim, your questions about it, but no answer as to whether it’s a bug or not), I’ve concluded that it is a bug.

Here’s the link to that thread, which contains a save:
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopic.php?t=412109
- Imagine how confusing it is to a new player!
- Tedious is the opposite of fun
- "The welfare of the people…has always been the alibi of tyrants…giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience." – Albert Camus
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Re: Idle Automated Construction Ships without shields

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Have you seen this on more advanced ion defense components? Do you see this behavior in other types of nebulas?
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Re: Idle Automated Construction Ships without shields

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In the save that I've already posted, there is one CS with depleted shield that is in a Radiation Zone (ship is Pristine Adversity, in the Pulmanar Void). All the others are in gravitic storms.

As for seeing the problem with more advanced components, the short answer would be yes.

The long one would be::

- I haven't played much lately, so I'm not much more advanced than I was when I made the initial save (I now have Ion Sheath Armor (v2), but the Ion Shield are still version 1). Current CS design is CST-11 Ship Yard.
- Currently, there is only one CS in a nebula (Cheerful Subterfuge). It's idle and its shield are depleted (everything else seems OK). It's in a gravitic storm nebula. It's automated for building research stations, and of the 6 queued RS constructions, 4 are already assigned. And the 2 that aren't, are in systems considered dangerous by the game (dangerous threats). So that might explain why the CS isn't assigned to one of those 2 jobs. But its shields ARE depleted, like those of the construction ships in the save posted initially.

So now, there's only one CS "stock" in a nebula, instead of many in the initial save. Sorry, but I don't remember if I had manually "unstock" those CS (of the initial save), or if the automation did it. It seems likely that I had done it, since the shield depletion problem still persists even now.

Today, I've queued research for Advanced EMP Defenses, and let the game run until I got it. Once I did, the CS were automatically upgraded to Ion Shield (v2). But that didn't seem to have any effect on the CS (Cheerful Subterfuge), which still doesn't have any shields. If a save of that point in the game is useful, let me know.
- Imagine how confusing it is to a new player!
- Tedious is the opposite of fun
- "The welfare of the people…has always been the alibi of tyrants…giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience." – Albert Camus
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Re: Idle Automated Construction Ships without shields

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Yes, a save for this point with additional research would be useful.
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Re: Idle Automated Construction Ships without shields

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Here's the save:
- Imagine how confusing it is to a new player!
- Tedious is the opposite of fun
- "The welfare of the people…has always been the alibi of tyrants…giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience." – Albert Camus
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Re: Idle Automated Construction Ships without shields

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Thanks we'll investigate.
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