Defenseless: Between the Storms Japan

[PaxMondo]

There will be serious action near Mindanao tomorrow!

Can't wait!!!

[John 3rd]

One thing that I mentioned to someone else would be to reduce the durability of the Japanese submarines but then give them a 0 day refit to increase their durability. That is just to reduce their cost, the cost of producing submarines should not be 3 times the cost of a destroyer of equivalent tonnage. That could also make it harder to discontinue useful submarine production. I do not know how the mini-submarines are produced but if they also use shipyard points, then the same thing could be done there.

Also, some of the CVEs that in the normal game are being produced were conversions of existing ships, just like the Junyo and Hiyo but I don't know how a person would handle that.

I do like what you have done.

You comment on SS is spot on. Would love that idea.

The CVE conversions are all in-mod now. The big APs are operational right now and can be converted when their time comes. Makes one want to PROTECT the big Japanese APs as much as possible. I use them for the Opening moves--wherever they are--then gather them at Tokyo and put heavy escorts with them. They then shuttle large units around to safe locations for OTHER ships to then deploy...

[SierraJuliet]

Thanks for the maps.

Zuikaku was flirting with trouble, but the sighting has your carriers heading in the direction you want your enemy to pay attention to.

I wondered how minefields would treat your bombarding TF. One minefield located and your major ships unscathed. I'd trade the CL for the lost DD.

Hoping to see some good results from your eastbound carriers.

[John 3rd]

I want it to LOOK like I am doing my normal Wake/Midway Operations so he tries to bring something in quickly. Perhaps I can hit a convoy or two and then just set up shop cutting off Hawaii from the West Coast.

The old CL is fine. Doubt if the DD makes it thru next turn.

[John 3rd]

Got some INTEL from the Allies regarding Pearl Harbor:

reefs commissioned by the IJN:
USS Arizona
USS Oklahoma
USS Nevada

NICE!

Sinking three BBs is a solid beginning...

[John 3rd]

OK. What are we building presently?

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[John 3rd]

2nd Half:

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[CaptBeefheart]

I want to chime in saying I'll be reading this probably once a week. You have very enjoyable AARs and I wouldn't change the format. My only suggestion would be to keep the posting up even after the "happy time" is over, although I understand how your enthusiasm could wane.

By the way, have you been in touch with Canoerebel in a while? Hopefully he's doing well. You two had one of the best ever matches going on back in the day.

Cheers,
CB

[PaxMondo]

OK. What are we building presently?

So, not knowing your airframes exactly in this mod, I might be wrong here. few comments:

1. I like to build out the Sally 1c. A lot of the 1E bombers in China require the Sally 1c in order to upgrade without PP's to 2E bombers.
2. Since I'm committing the Ha-5 engines to the Sally, I build Thalia instead of Topsy.
3. I don't build the Lilly as the bombload is just too small AND it uses Ha-35 engines which I want for my fighters.
4. I don't build the Dinah I or II. The extra supply expense to operate them (2x) just isn't worth the small increase in range, not to mention they also take double the air field space which also is always at a premium. I just make do with Babs until the Dinah III arrives.

Your air frame progression may preclude some of these comments ... so use as you see fit.

[RangerJoe]

OK. What are we building presently?

So, not knowing your airframes exactly in this mod, I might be wrong here. few comments:

1. I like to build out the Sally 1c. A lot of the 1E bombers in China require the Sally 1c in order to upgrade without PP's to 2E bombers.
2. Since I'm committing the Ha-5 engines to the Sally, I build Thalia instead of Topsy.
3. I don't build the Lilly as the bombload is just too small AND it uses Ha-35 engines which I want for my fighters.
4. I don't build the Dinah I or II. The extra supply expense to operate them (2x) just isn't worth the small increase in range, not to mention they also take double the air field space which also is always at a premium. I just make do with Babs until the Dinah III arrives.

Your air frame progression may preclude some of these comments ... so use as you see fit.

I never got that far against the AI but your comments of the Sally 1c does now make sense to build that version and go to the Thalia as the transport. But I think that a lot of people like to convert the 1E bombers to Nicks for more fighters.

The Lily isn't that bad but early on, I agree with the need for the engines for the fighters and the research bonus. When the Lily gets armored, then it becomes more survivable and I do believe faster than other bombers of that era. When combined with escorts and/or LRCAP, it might not be a bad combination for smaller bombing raids to try and shoot down enemy fighters while also inhibiting fort production.

I really didn't think like you did about the earlier Dinah aircrafts before this but what you mention does make sense. But then I also realized that the Dinah also costs twice the amount of HI to build plus another engine.

[John 3rd]

I want to chime in saying I'll be reading this probably once a week. You have very enjoyable AARs and I wouldn't change the format. My only suggestion would be to keep the posting up even after the "happy time" is over, although I understand how your enthusiasm could wane.

By the way, have you been in touch with Canoerebel in a while? Hopefully he's doing well. You two had one of the best ever matches going on back in the day.

Cheers,
CB

He is a good friend and I call Georgia about every 6 months to touch base. He is doing fine and approaching retirement. he is a VERY GOOD man!

[John 3rd]

OK. What are we building presently?

So, not knowing your airframes exactly in this mod, I might be wrong here. few comments:

1. I like to build out the Sally 1c. A lot of the 1E bombers in China require the Sally 1c in order to upgrade without PP's to 2E bombers.
2. Since I'm committing the Ha-5 engines to the Sally, I build Thalia instead of Topsy.
3. I don't build the Lilly as the bombload is just too small AND it uses Ha-35 engines which I want for my fighters.
4. I don't build the Dinah I or II. The extra supply expense to operate them (2x) just isn't worth the small increase in range, not to mention they also take double the air field space which also is always at a premium. I just make do with Babs until the Dinah III arrives.

Your air frame progression may preclude some of these comments ... so use as you see fit.

Interesting thoughts Pax. I am headed to the cabin for a three day weekend and will address your thoughts when I get back. We don't have very good wifi at 8500Ft!

[PaxMondo]

Enjoy the COOL!!!!

[ny59giants]

This is not John's first attack on Hawaii, so he should have learned what "not" to do. This will hurt the Allies in such that those BBs are great for soaking up CD gun hits when invading. Losing the CA/CLs will hurt more short term. The issue for the Allied player is adjusting his logistics.

Good luck, but not too much as I'm still Allied Fan Boy at heart.

[PaxMondo]

I want to chime in saying I'll be reading this probably once a week. You have very enjoyable AARs and I wouldn't change the format. My only suggestion would be to keep the posting up even after the "happy time" is over, although I understand how your enthusiasm could wane.

By the way, have you been in touch with Canoerebel in a while? Hopefully he's doing well. You two had one of the best ever matches going on back in the day.

Cheers,
CB

He is a good friend and I call Georgia about every 6 months to touch base. He is doing fine and approaching retirement. he is a VERY GOOD man!

Man, pass on the best wishes to CR from all of us.

[RangerJoe]

I want to chime in saying I'll be reading this probably once a week. You have very enjoyable AARs and I wouldn't change the format. My only suggestion would be to keep the posting up even after the "happy time" is over, although I understand how your enthusiasm could wane.

By the way, have you been in touch with Canoerebel in a while? Hopefully he's doing well. You two had one of the best ever matches going on back in the day.

Cheers,
CB

He is a good friend and I call Georgia about every 6 months to touch base. He is doing fine and approaching retirement. he is a VERY GOOD man!

Man, pass on the best wishes to CR from all of us.

+1

In fact, ask him to post a picture of a tree in your AAR!

[CaptBeefheart]

I want to chime in saying I'll be reading this probably once a week. You have very enjoyable AARs and I wouldn't change the format. My only suggestion would be to keep the posting up even after the "happy time" is over, although I understand how your enthusiasm could wane.

By the way, have you been in touch with Canoerebel in a while? Hopefully he's doing well. You two had one of the best ever matches going on back in the day.

Cheers,
CB

He is a good friend and I call Georgia about every 6 months to touch base. He is doing fine and approaching retirement. he is a VERY GOOD man!

Excellent! Yes indeed, he's a great guy. Next time you talk, please tell him we miss his great AARs.

Cheers,
CB

[John 3rd]

Back from our cabin trip and Mother Nature is seriously giving us some fall rain!

Appreciate the thoughts on CR and will get back to Posting today. Have already gotten a turn in yesterday and one this morning.

[John 3rd]

I am going to detail the action region-by-region from December 9-11, 1941.

[John 3rd]

Combat Report
December 9-11, 1941
NoPac

The Japanese start with a pair of AMC in the Gulf of Alaska. Why? Don't really know but they are there.

I attempt to get them to Paramushiro Jima where they can be a serious use when the ships are jumped by CL Concord and 4 DD. How did they find the Japanese? Don't know but they do and the AMC are sunk after managing to hit three of the DDs with 1-2 shells each...oh, well...

Adak sees a Fast TF deposit a small Infantry Company, small Base Force, and an engineering unit on the 11th. The island will fall on the 12th. The 3 CL and 5 DD (all the warships in the NoPac head for Paramushiro Jima to grab another load of boys to be deposited up here in this bleak, barren land.