Shattered Trident, 1994 - JMSDF scenario vs. DPRK

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Shattered Trident, 1994 - JMSDF scenario vs. DPRK

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Hi all,

I hope this is the right place to post this. I have just submitted my first scenario to CMO's workshop. I was wondering if folks would be interested to try it out and post some feedback?

My intention was to create a small and tight small-scale combat scenario with some basic naval units. I would say the complexity is relatively low, but I tried to refine the difficulty for it to be challenging enough.

The core objective is to protect civilian shipping against attacking North Korean FACs and against some submarines. Secondary objective is to take out an experimental missile barge behind the enemy's screen.

Let me know what you think :)
Here is the workshop file: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 3608244172

Cheers,
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Re: Shattered Trident, 1994 - JMSDF scenario vs. DPRK

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Ah, this scenario looks interesting. I'll definitely try it out!

Also note, you can share scenario files on here directly. Simply put the .scen file (and .ini file if appicable) into a compressed (zipped) folder, and add it as an attachment to your OP.

UPDATE:

I've played the scenario. I like the setup and I think it plays interestingly, but I've got a few critiques:

1) Since there are DPRK submarines in the scenario, you should add biologics and/or false contacts underwater. Otherwise, it's a bit too easy to locate the submarines.

2) I got a minor victory with 120 points after destroying 2x submarines and all the DPRK combat vessels, but I did not engage the barge because there wasn't clear ROE for when or if I'm "allowed" to attack it. Additionally, I had used up all 4 of my Harpoons against the enemy Missile Boats, so I didn't feel that I had the firepower to reliably go after the barge.

3) Given the presence of only 4x harpoons, perhaps consider adding 2x combat aircraft to Misawa, or adding Harpoon loadouts to the P-3s. Perhaps the Mitsubishi F-1 could be used. It isn't in alot of scenarios, and it should have a combat radius to hit the barge.
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Re: Shattered Trident, 1994 - JMSDF scenario vs. DPRK

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Thanks a lot for giving it a spin, and thank you for your excellent feedback. Much appreciated!

I addressed some of your points (like adding organics/false targets in the search area). I also added a Missile Barge Search area to indicate the rough location of the barge. I made some smaller tweaks to the briefing to indicate that the target can be engaged once identified as hostile Missile Barge. I hope this helps a bit.

Regarding victory: I think the result is intentional. I had roughly seen it as:
- Minor victory = No ships lost, civilian traffic unscathed and safely escorted to safe waters
- Major victory = Same as minor, but also destroyed missile barge (it's the secondary objective)

Civilian shipping receiving damage is a score penalty, and losing either of the four ships is a big penalty to the score.

Regarding equipment: I like your suggestion with regards to the F-1. It's a great aircraft :) But I wanted to ideally create a situation where you have to be really mindful of the target selection. The Harpoons are really strong, but they can be wasteful against the enemy FACs (they can miss). Using at least 1 Harpoon against the Missile Barge makes a lot of sense, but that requires you to then get into missile range against the enemy FACs (which requires good tactical navigation).

So ideally I wanted to keep that "resource starved" feeling and making the most out of limited resources.
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I guess that makes sense. Only 4x Harpoons made me feel that each one had to count against the missile boats, especially since the helicopters don't have any anti-surface loadouts.

I firmly believe that any submarines in a scenario should mean including at least a few biologics.
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HalfLifeExpert wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 8:22 pm I guess that makes sense. Only 4x Harpoons made me feel that each one had to count against the missile boats, especially since the helicopters don't have any anti-surface loadouts.

I firmly believe that any submarines in a scenario should mean including at least a few biologics.
I disagree. Any competent sonar operator is going to be able to identify a whale and filter it out. From a gameplay perspective, unless a scenario designer puts in the effort, it's blindingly obvious what is a submarine and what's a biologic.
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Re: Shattered Trident, 1994 - JMSDF scenario vs. DPRK

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Kushan04 wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 4:58 pm
HalfLifeExpert wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 8:22 pm I guess that makes sense. Only 4x Harpoons made me feel that each one had to count against the missile boats, especially since the helicopters don't have any anti-surface loadouts.

I firmly believe that any submarines in a scenario should mean including at least a few biologics.
I disagree. Any competent sonar operator is going to be able to identify a whale and filter it out. From a gameplay perspective, unless a scenario designer puts in the effort, it's blindingly obvious what is a submarine and what's a biologic.
I respectfully disagree Kushan.

This might be worth a separate thread in the general section rather than filling up this thread with it.
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