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Tazak
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CB cancel fire mission spam

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Had batteries on CB with a on-map WLR unit, for 7minutes both batteries would receive CB fire only to cancel it almost immediately (rinse and repeat)

WLR was on a 2min scan, 3min off, 15 cycles repeated
Enemy arty 6 batteries off-map (2x3 battery arty bn) that were firing pre-prepped barrages

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Re: CB cancel fire mission spam

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Tazak, welcome back! Is this with the first patch applied? Are the launching enemy IDF systems in range of your CB assets? I will alert William to this. Thanks for the details and save.
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Re: CB cancel fire mission spam

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Thanks!

I don't think it is a range issue (if so, the FSCC would not have assigned the mission).
For sure, the artillery unit should cancel the complete mission, not just a volley when contact is lost. That's something we want to fix.
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Running through Steam with auto-updating so latest version in Steam, version 3.0.1.10236s

my batteries didnt fire a single shot on CB, took them off CB back to on-call, FSCC was assigning them fire missions that they were completing happily so does look like something within the CB cycle is causing the cancel volley, almost as if the WLR loses track of the enemy volley (shells exploding) so it cancels the CB volley, then the WLR sees/tracks a new enemy volley, issues the CB fire missions (rinse and repeat)
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(I have found the problem with the CB fire mission not being fully aborted).

In addition, what is going on in your scenario is that the Warsaw Pact (at least for some short HE missions) is completing its fire missions and starting to scoot before NATO can detect the shells, send coordinates to FSCC and task a CB battery to target those coordinates:
- WP HE missions as short as 5 minutes
- time from NATO WLR detection to FSCC to order issued is 9 minutes or more

Warsaw Pact is absolutely doing the right thing here, firing short fire missions (at the cost of not causing as much damage as it could with a longer fire mission).
For NATO to have any chance at all to hit WP arty before it scoots, you want to set the NATO CB arty in direct support to the WLR, to reduce the communication time between detection and shooting.

p.s. the WLR does not need to be on a forward slope; it is scanning the sky, not the ground, and because of that can be placed behind a low hill, and not risk being spotted that way.
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Thats good to know, thanks William
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