Quick question on leaders and the * symbol

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GivingUpTheGhost wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:32 pm In response to:
"-s designation identifies bases that the air unit can transfer by ship. Anyone seen this??"

-s designation is for off-map movement. For example, Eastern US to Cape Town
I think the general idea behind that -s designation is that the air unit is being abstractly "shipped" to an off-map box as opposed to being actually loaded into the hold of one of the named vessels in the game and sent to an off-map port. The transfer in this case is using shipping on vessels not represented in the game but it's still traveling by sea.
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GivingUpTheGhost wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:32 pm In response to:
"-s designation identifies bases that the air unit can transfer by ship. Anyone seen this??"

-s designation is for off-map movement. For example, Eastern US to Cape Town
No wonder I can't find an example all my checking was done as Japan and I probably wouldn't of thought of off-map anyway. Good, thanks, updated here.
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Many thanks Chris21wen, I have been playing for years and never knew what some of these actually meant! Doh :?
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Platoonist wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:26 pm
GivingUpTheGhost wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:32 pm In response to:
"-s designation identifies bases that the air unit can transfer by ship. Anyone seen this??"

-s designation is for off-map movement. For example, Eastern US to Cape Town
I think the general idea behind that -s designation is that the air unit is being abstractly "shipped" to an off-map box as opposed to being actually loaded into the hold of one of the named vessels in the game and sent to an off-map port. The transfer in this case is using shipping on vessels not represented in the game but it's still traveling by sea.
I agree entirely on the intended abstract.
As a side note, land units can use it, too. It's slower than if you sent them via actual transports, but it works. I think it's 38 days from the East Coast to CT. And they don't need to be in any particular op mode
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Chris21wen wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:24 am
GivingUpTheGhost wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:32 pm In response to:
"-s designation identifies bases that the air unit can transfer by ship. Anyone seen this??"

-s designation is for off-map movement. For example, Eastern US to Cape Town
No wonder I can't find an example all my checking was done as Japan and I probably wouldn't of thought of off-map anyway. Good, thanks, updated here.
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GivingUpTheGhost wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:22 pm
Platoonist wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:26 pm
GivingUpTheGhost wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:32 pm In response to:
"-s designation identifies bases that the air unit can transfer by ship. Anyone seen this??"

-s designation is for off-map movement. For example, Eastern US to Cape Town
I think the general idea behind that -s designation is that the air unit is being abstractly "shipped" to an off-map box as opposed to being actually loaded into the hold of one of the named vessels in the game and sent to an off-map port. The transfer in this case is using shipping on vessels not represented in the game but it's still traveling by sea.
I agree entirely on the intended abstract.
As a side note, land units can use it, too. It's slower than if you sent them via actual transports, but it works. I think it's 38 days from the East Coast to CT. And they don't need to be in any particular op mode
It might be slower but the land units don't need to be purchased before they are sent either.
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This thread does not answer the question What is the meaning of the * symbol next to the name of the leader in the ground unit?
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The name is also in green. Isn't he the leader of the unit?
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morphin wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 4:06 pm This thread does not answer the question What is the meaning of the * symbol next to the name of the leader in the ground unit?

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It does.

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* After ....... Rarer are those in the TF leader and ship commanders list.
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Anybody know the significance of an * after a leaders name? E.g. Kose, Takasue*.

This is NOT the * after a rank as in Takagi M PO1*. This mean he is in two lists, leader and pilot.
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Not check all but for those I have with an * after their name there's usually two and sometimes three people with the same name and mostly a different rank and quite often their stats are the same. This from Tracker.
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Chris21wen wrote: Wed Dec 17, 2025 10:06 am Anybody know the significance of an * after a leaders name? E.g. Kose, Takasue*.

This is NOT the * after a rank as in Takagi M PO1*. This mean he is in two lists, leader and pilot.

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Not check all but for those I have with an * after their name there's usually two and sometimes three people with the same name and mostly a different rank and quite often their stats are the same. This from Tracker.

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Are you asking about an air unit leader who is also a pilot in the unit?
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No I asked.

Anybody know the significance of an * after a leaders name? E.g. Kose, Takasue*.
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Chris21wen wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2025 6:44 am No I asked.

Anybody know the significance of an * after a leaders name? E.g. Kose, Takasue*.
Flying pilot in the unit . . .
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In the Tracker strip post Komura shows up first as a ship Captain rank and then as a TF Admiral. My guess is that he is first available as a ship Captain and after some combat is eligible to promote to Rear Admiral. Instead of the game changing the rank in the database it swaps in the new Rear Admiral entry to replace the entire Captain entry. That keeps the database from being messed up.
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RangerJoe wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2025 8:59 am
Chris21wen wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2025 6:44 am No I asked.

Anybody know the significance of an * after a leaders name? E.g. Kose, Takasue*.
Flying pilot in the unit . . .
Not the case, athe * after a rank signifies that.

The first example I gave just happens to be air related, the tracker strip is ship related and there are other.

I was wondering if BBfanboy has got the answer but I can find nothing.
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Something similar happens with Gen Douglas MacArthur - he shows up twice - once in the Philippines at game start as Commander USAFFE and then he comes in again a commander of SWPAC command at Brisbane, Australia. If you manage to get him out of the Philippines, you can end up with two of him! (in stock - don't know if the 1128 Beta fixed that).

Another possibility for the * asterisk is that the leader already has a unit/ship/TF assignment but is available to be reassigned - which could be instant at the same base or take days if he is far away.
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