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InHarmsWay wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 3:10 pm ...
Todays subject is the venerable zero airframe. I have just switched over my last production factory making the A6M5 to the J7W1 Shinden (now have 9 factories). I do have 3 research factories still on the A6M5b (which should arrive May '43). This was a gutsy call, as I still need the zero for KB until the Sam shows up. KB is fully outfitted with the A6M5 model, and I have 168 in the pool. A further ~130 in units that will get the George soon enough. That means I have about 300 for KB replacements over the next 6 months?? As an emergency backup, I have about the same number of A6M3a in inventory and existing formations as well. Looking at the zero, it feels like the later model is not that much better, and best to concentrate on other airframes.
As you know, not a big fan of the A6M after 9/42. I, like all other JFB's have to suffer with it until A7M comes around. After the A6M3a (which give you best range) the next 2 "interesting" models are the:

A6M5c - this adds armor, and has the improved weapons and DUR of the A6M5 series. I sometimes build this one when it arrives for defense on atolls as it is SR=1. The armor helps conserve pilots when on defense. Truthfully, there are a number of IJA SR=1 planes that quite a bit better for this role (Tony in particular, Tojo also)

A6M8 - changes to the Ha-33 engine, slight increase in speed. Apparently a favorite with the general public. I actually haven't built this one in over a decade now ...

So, will 600 A6M's last you until your A7M arrives? All depends on what you plan for that time period and how the KB will be used, right? Not something I can answer.

If you are keeping the initiative, that would mean you are planning to offensively use the KB, then maybe ... you might need to get creative; like offload the KB air groups, convert the fighters to George and then attack as LBA ... depending upon where you are and your target, this works quite well. Doesn't work everywhere of course. Benefit is, the ships don't have to be there .... they can be "spotted" some great distance off giving you much better chance of surprise ... Note: when I do this, I tend to swap out a LOT of my pilots from the VERY, VERY best to simply Very GOOD with the intent of promoting the survivors up to the next tier.

If you plan to cede the initiative and move the KB into a "fleet in being", then that should present no problem. In this case, re-read my earlier post about your empire size not being bigger than 2 - 3 days KB sailing time and shrink it accordingly ... else you will pay a terrible price in lost units ...



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InHarmsWay wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 3:10 pm Chungking has not fallen yet. Working through the turn this weekend. I have ordered a deliberate attack to go in this turn, as my divisions have reduced their fatigue to around 30ish and disruption to 10ish. A max effort has been ordered to bomb Chungking ground units as well.
BANZAI!!!!


InHarmsWay wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 3:10 pm However there is good news, the first George just rolled off the production lines as of December 16th! Will be making 12 a day and I expect in a week or so, Adm Wa will get a fun surprise!
You will wish that you had more, many more, IJN LBA Fighter groups. When George arrives, this is when I tend to disembark some (many) of my KB fighter groups when they aren't being used, re-pilot them, and then use them extensively as LBA. Face it, George is WAY better than any IJA fighter (look at armament and range) until Frank shows up ...

My "opponent" never notices the group name, but your opponent would. Use this to your advantage. He may mistake them and think that the KB is committed in that area. So, you can either "sucker" him to an attack when you quickly return the fighters to the KB, or trip him up into a general retreat. Lotta ways to use this as a "maskirovka" tactic. Just be careful it doesn't backfire on YOU.



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Gentle readers, in case you were wondering... Adm Wa has been busy this week with Family and Thanksgiving activities.... so no distraction yet has shown up in my inbox. Still waiting to find out the results of my deliberate attack in China!
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InHarmsWay wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 1:11 am Gentle readers, in case you were wondering... Adm Wa has been busy this week with Family and Thanksgiving activities.... so no distraction yet has shown up in my inbox. Still waiting to find out the results of my deliberate attack in China!
The suspense ....


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Adm Wa finally came out of his Thanksgiving food coma and a turn arrived! The Chungking attack was not fully successful, but I would say it was a draw. The attack achieved a 2-1 and dropped forts from 1 to 0. Also, I did not kill a single unit which I am happy with. Extensive Chinese losses should mean the next attack will likely succeed. I have been tempted to go for broke with a shock attack, but don't want to suffer the casualties. That has worked in that I have now trained up a solid core of Divisions that are in the mid to upper 80's in experience (88 / 87 / 83 / 83 / 82 / 77). Downside is I have lost alot of time!!! The Chungking army will rest for 3-4 days and attack one last time, followed by a dash to Chengtu. For those gentle readers, the details of the attack are below. I abbreviated the long list of participants...

One question that I have for the wider group. Every so often I get a message saying an ace pilot is getting promoted. Is that good ( I assume so) and what actually does that mean? I will be miffed if my favorite aces' start flying a desk!!!

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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 108925 troops, 1255 guns, 497 vehicles, Assault Value = 3775

Defending force 145607 troops, 218 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2289

Japanese adjusted assault: 3321

Allied adjusted defense: 1603

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3626 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 700 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 86 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 93 disabled
Guns lost 60 (2 destroyed, 58 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
13630 casualties reported
Squads: 266 destroyed, 536 disabled
Non Combat: 93 destroyed, 842 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 32 (3 destroyed, 29 disabled)
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InHarmsWay wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:06 pm Adm Wa finally came out of his Thanksgiving food coma and a turn arrived! The Chungking attack was not fully successful, but I would say it was a draw. The attack achieved a 2-1 and dropped forts from 1 to 0. Also, I did not kill a single unit which I am happy with. Extensive Chinese losses should mean the next attack will likely succeed. I have been tempted to go for broke with a shock attack, but don't want to suffer the casualties. That has worked in that I have now trained up a solid core of Divisions that are in the mid to upper 80's in experience (88 / 87 / 83 / 83 / 82 / 77). Downside is I have lost alot of time!!! The Chungking army will rest for 3-4 days and attack one last time, followed by a dash to Chengtu. For those gentle readers, the details of the attack are below. I abbreviated the long list of participants...
Fort 0, yeah, you should win the next one ... can't wait to read it.

InHarmsWay wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:06 pm One question that I have for the wider group. Every so often I get a message saying an ace pilot is getting promoted. Is that good ( I assume so) and what actually does that mean? I will be miffed if my favorite aces' start flying a desk!!!
Hardly, Ace= 5 kills ... there may be some skill bonus with it, not known. But all good in any case.




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PaxMondo wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:28 pm
InHarmsWay wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:06 pm One question that I have for the wider group. Every so often I get a message saying an ace pilot is getting promoted. Is that good ( I assume so) and what actually does that mean? I will be miffed if my favorite aces' start flying a desk!!!
Hardly, Ace= 5 kills ... there may be some skill bonus with it, not known. But all good in any case.


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update?


Chengtu fallen? 8-)




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Just ran the turn. My latest attack into Chengtu dropped the forts from 5 to 4! Slowly. Also got a 1-2 odds as well. With Chungking on the ropes, I see a chance of maybe maybe carrying the day before the avalanche of magical reinforcements arrive in Chengtu after taking Chungking. Here is the Chengtu battle summary. I will attack in Chungking in ~3 days. I think that will carry the day and start the 30 day clock.
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Ground combat at Chengtu (75,41)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 92456 troops, 951 guns, 1335 vehicles, Assault Value = 3115

Defending force 70223 troops, 294 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2296

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Japanese adjusted assault: 1352

Allied adjusted defense: 3973

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
10235 casualties reported
Squads: 115 destroyed, 703 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 73 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 42 disabled
Guns lost 77 (4 destroyed, 73 disabled)
Vehicles lost 125 (5 destroyed, 120 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3015 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 358 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 86 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Assaulting units:
4th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
11th Indpt Infantry Regiment
13th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th Division
15th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
6th Division
3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
26th Engineer Regiment
35th Division
13th Indpt Infantry Regiment
138th Infantry Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
37th Division
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
44th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
13th Chinese Corps
24th Chinese Corps
40th Chinese Corps
60th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese/A Corps
100th Chinese/C Corps
31st Group Army
10th Chinese Corps
36th Group Army
3rd Chinese Base Force
15th Group Army
9th Group Army
5th War Area
100th Chinese/B Corps
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InHarmsWay wrote: Wed Dec 10, 2025 6:31 pm Just ran the turn. My latest attack into Chengtu dropped the forts from 5 to 4! Slowly. Also got a 1-2 odds as well. With Chungking on the ropes, I see a chance of maybe maybe carrying the day before the avalanche of magical reinforcements arrive in Chengtu after taking Chungking. Here is the Chengtu battle summary. I will attack in Chungking in ~3 days. I think that will carry the day and start the 30 day clock.
First, just let me get this out there: CRAP!! He's moved a LOT of units to Chengtu.

Good news, you're dropping forts against him already, even though losses are high. So, yeah, I think your assessment is correct, you may be able to take Chengtu after CK before too many units arrive ... but it will be tight.

Question: in your game setup what did you choose for reinforcements? Fixed or variable?
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We went with Variable on reinforcements. Just ordered another deliberate attack at Chungking, turn sent! Hoping that will do it and then the race for taking Chengtu will commence! Fingers crossed in Toyko right now! Stay tuned gentle readers...
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Admiral Harmasaki looked up from his desk as the Major entered after a brief knock. "Sir, we just received word from LGEN Takamori of the China Expeditionary Army. Chungking has fallen! The latest attack was successful. He reports that per your orders, he has immediately ordered the Army to prepare for Chengtu, and begin marching."

"Thank you Major, pass on my compliments to the Army. It was a tough fight, now we must move quickly so that we do not have to do it all over again." With that Adm Harmasuki looked over the disposition of units in China on his wall map. Yes, over the past month he had moved a large fraction of the units invested at Chungking over to Chengtu. This slowed the final victory at Chungking, but allowed for Chengtu to begin to be reduced. It was a balancing act, but now the full weight of the airforce and ground units can be focused on Chengtu. 7 More Divisions with associated Arty units will now join the 5 Divisions with 7 Armor units already there. Hopefully that will be sufficient to push attacks in rapid succession.
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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 103964 troops, 1215 guns, 475 vehicles, Assault Value = 3877

Defending force 135426 troops, 203 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1679

Japanese adjusted assault: 4266

Allied adjusted defense: 909

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Chungking !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4094 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 303 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Vehicles lost 41 (1 destroyed, 40 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
166573 casualties reported
Squads: 5391 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 12475 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 117 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 110 (110 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 91

Assaulting units:
116th Division
10th Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
34th Division
110th Division
41st Division
22nd Division
39th Division
3rd Division
13th Division
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
104th/A Division
21st Mortar Battalion
23rd Army
12th Army
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
5th Field Artillery Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Army
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment
9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion

Defending units:
49th Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps.....(89 more units...)
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With the long awaited victory at Chungking, the war has now been paused until New Years while the respective Admirals are off visiting family over the Holidays... Hope all you gentle readers have a wonderful and safe holiday season!
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InHarmsWay wrote: Sat Dec 20, 2025 1:48 pm With the long awaited victory at Chungking, the war has now been paused until New Years while the respective Admirals are off visiting family over the Holidays... Hope all you gentle readers have a wonderful and safe holiday season!
Congrats on CK!

Variable is GOOD for you here. You may just gain a few extra days. I can't find my notes on whether the CHI returns are impacted by variable or not ... I do remember testing it, just can't find my notes on it ... they are around here somewhere ... otherwise 91 units will return in 30 days at 33% strength at Chengtu ....


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PaxMondo wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 4:14 am
InHarmsWay wrote: Sat Dec 20, 2025 1:48 pm With the long awaited victory at Chungking, the war has now been paused until New Years while the respective Admirals are off visiting family over the Holidays... Hope all you gentle readers have a wonderful and safe holiday season!
Congrats on CK!

Variable is GOOD for you here. You may just gain a few extra days. I can't find my notes on whether the CHI returns are impacted by variable or not ... I do remember testing it, just can't find my notes on it ... they are around here somewhere ... otherwise 91 units will return in 30 days at 33% strength at Chengtu ....


Have a great holiday ...




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Happy New Year, there should be turns now ... update?


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Gentle readers! It has been quite a long holiday season and all. I have had two turns since the last glorious Imperial update went out. However that said, I think things will be heating up again in China now that Chungking has fallen! Japanese Divisions have been ordered to recombine from their resting bivouac camps outside Chengtu and will attack again in on ~Dec 29th. This will be 8 days from the fall of Chungking and will be with the current forces there. The Victorious Chungking army is still on the march, and I expect it will arrive Jan 1st? This will allow a swap of units at Chungking for a second attack shortly after the first. I will try and time it so the hex is not overstacked.
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Admiral Harmasaki looks over the global plot and in a moment of honesty, recognizes that he is an impatient person at heart. He wants to send out the newly formed formations of the new George fighters into action, but knows he should wait until the proper time to ambush the allies. Already one formation (in Bangkok) is mostly ready to go, with the final planes to be repaired ready to stage up in Mandalay for action tomorrow. The second formation (in Darwin) should be repaired and ready for combat in 4 days. After waiting for months for the R&D teams to finish the design, the last week has been hard, with only 13 rolling off the factory floor each day.
With that thought, the good Admiral decides to once again check in on the R&D teams for the promising Frank fighter... Evidenly the first factory is almost ready to make progress in earnest! (29 repaired, 1 to go).
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InHarmsWay wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 2:14 am ...
With that thought, the good Admiral decides to once again check in on the R&D teams for the promising Frank fighter... Evidenly the first factory is almost ready to make progress in earnest! (29 repaired, 1 to go).
Oh, this is big news ... still '42 and you've get a Frank factory online ... whoa!!!



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